Once located, visually inspect the connectors and wiring. , , . Operating information and commands are exchanged among the devices. PROCEDURE Ok I think I found a Redneck solution. DTC No. related ECU and sensor communication on the CAN. No communication between the engine stop and start ECU and the airbag sensor assembly for 10.6 seconds. Radio Probably need a new FICM but I dont want to roll the dice and buy one. Dodge Durango (HB) - service repair manual 2005 year. Delete the DTC. AGEUFMA - Agncia de Inovao, Empreendedorismo, Pesquisa, Ps-Graduao e Internacionalizao. If not, repair the power or ground circuit problem. If you still need help regarding the U0164 trouble code, please post Next, connect the red voltmeter lead to the CAN B- circuit. 0.5 . If an electrical issue arises, the module has a backup, and will default to the defrost position, just as a precaution. Check the connector used for high speed CAN for poor contact. , , , . What is the Cost to Diagnose the U0164 Code? Your issue may be a known issue with a known fix put out by the manufacturer and can save you time and money during diagnosis. These inputs allow the module to control the interior temperature of the vehicle, in this case for front only or both front and rear passengers. At least the dealer will diagnose it. Need more information on how to fix the U0164 code? ( ) . , . Para obter informaes atuais e completas sobre o PGLetras-UFMA acesse nossa pgina em http://www.pgletras.ufma.br/ How to subscribe to SiriusXM Satellite Use only floor mats designed specifically for vehicles of the same model and This is the 1-C1 fused ignition switch output. the cable is reconnected (See page ). 2) Replace the module that the DTC has been detected. (a) Connect the cable to the negative (-) battery terminal. Even after DTCs are cleared, if a DTC is stored again after driving in the power management main bus circuit. ? SetCondition:BusmessagesnotreceivedfromtheA/CHeaterControl(HVAC)forapproximately2to5seconds. Next, check the two communication circuits. gtag('js', new Date()); , , HVACCM. vol11, 1945 2, , : BMW 320i xDrive Gran Turismo, Opel Astra Extreme: , (MIL) , HVAC / , CAN-, HVACCM. Satellite Radio service is necessary. 1942-1944 . Nissan Infiniti . I've searched all over this forum but no one seems to have this problem on an 06, 2006 RAM 2500 MEGACAB 2WD SLT Automatic 5.9HO. Glove box , , . warning system and light reminder warning system are not operating. Dodge Cummins 03-07 Common Rail Forums, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Come join the discussion about reviews, drivetrain swaps, turbos, modifications, classifieds, builds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! designed exclusively to receive broadcasts First, note if there are any other diagnostic fault codes. . , HVAC (HVACCM) . , . Content .. 212 .. U0164-LOSTCOMMUNICATIONWITHHVACCONTROLMODULE, ELECTRONICCONTROLMODULES-ELECTRICALDIAGNOSTICS, U0164-LOSTCOMMUNICATIONWITHHVACCONTROLMODULE(CONTINUED). If I do I'll break down and get a new FICM. CAN bus uses two dedicated wires for communication. However the Dashboard module still does not light up the AC Light and Defrost. Floor mats It receives inputs from a variety of sensors, some hardwired directly to it, most are sent over the bus communications system. If all tests have passed and communication is still not possible, or you were unable to clear the U0164 fault code, the only thing left that can be done is to seek assistance from a trained automotive diagnostician, as this would indicate a failed HVACCM. Repair the poor contact of harness, or replace the harness. Visually inspect the related wiring harness and connectors. AND BODY GROUND). B + ( ), HVACCM, ( , ). Turn the ignition switch off before measuring the resistances between This DTC relates to the accelerator pedal sensor assembly. Troubleshooting steps may vary depending upon manufacturer, type of communications system, number of wires and wire colors in the communication system. Using the Subaru Select Monitor, read DTC of all the systems. . Radio, Diagnostic procedure with diagnostic trouble code (dtc). RefertotheTableofContentsforacompletelistofthesymptoms. I ran a jumper wire as you can see in the photo from the battery positive to the back of the heater AC control and the air conditioning button turned on as you can see in the photo. (a) Disconnect the F42 air conditioning amplifier assembly connector. NOTE:EnsuretheIODfuseisinstalledandbatteryvoltageisbetween10and16voltsbeforeproceeding.Withthescantool,readactiveDTCs. no problem , hope it helps, let us know what happens:wink2: So I tested for Continuity and it was Good. If unable to access the HVACCM, then the U0164 code that the other modules are setting is active, and the problem is there now. DoesthescantooldisplayanyactiveDTCstotheconditionslistedabove? No communication between the engine stop and start ECU and the ECM for 0.84 seconds. A SiriusXM Satellite Radio is a tuner When any DTCs indicating a CAN communication system malfunction are output, troubleshoot the CAN communication system before repairing each corresponding component. function gtag(){dataLayer.push(arguments);} (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); No communication from the air conditioning amplifier continues. If any repairs were made, clear the diagnostic trouble codes from memory, and see if the U0164 code returns or if you are able to communicate with the HVACCM module. It appears the fused ignition switch output is not sending 12 volts to the control AC heater. the resistances of the main wire and branch wire. Insert the retaining hooks (clips) into the floor mat eyelets. Reconnect the battery before continuing, with the HVACCM still disconnected. Air Conditioning Amplifier Communication Stop Mode, Throttle / Pedal Position Sensor / Switch "D" Circuit Range / Performance (P2121), Air conditioning amplifier branch wire or connector, Power source circuit of air conditioning amplifier. . If power management bus DTC U1002 is output from the power management control If your scan tool can access fault codes and the only one you get from other modules is the U0164, try to access to the hvac control module (HVACCM). 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Use electrical contact cleaner and a plastic bristle brush if cleaning of the terminals is needed. , , . When disconnecting the cable, some systems need to be initialized after Start by checking the "Possible Causes" listed above. When data bits are being transmitted, the CAN high line goes to 3.75V, and the CAN low drops to 1.25V, thereby generating a 2.5V differential between the lines. However the Dashboard module still does not light up the AC Light and Defrost. 1. Refertothetableofcontentsinthissection. The heater is controlled by TIPM which is computerized power controller, it uses can b bus , as a communication network to control monitor,trucks electronics. If you have to, take them off, get a small wire bristle brush and baking soda/water solution and clean each one, both the connector and where it connects. . , , / , , , . DISASSEMBLY 2022.1. ? 211 of the vehicle. Repair the connector that has poor contact, or replace harness. , , . Back Door Closer System If the code does not return or communication is re-established, then the fuses/connections were most likely your problem. Is the voltage suppost to be this low? Faulty Heating, Ventilation, and Air Conditioning (HVAC) Control Module, HVAC Control Module harness is open or shorted, HVAC Control Module circuit poor electrical connection, Engine Light ON (or Service Engine Soon Warning Light). No communication between the engine stop and start ECU and the ECM for 3.1 seconds. No communication between the engine stop and start ECU and the power steering ECU for 0.8 seconds. gtag('config', 'UA-146846665-1'); Index What are the Possible Causes of the U0164 Code? You will need to have access to a digital volt-ohmmeter (DVOM). There is Continuity. Verify that you have power and ground at the HVACCM. , , U0164 , - . I'll leave it like this until I have other problems. No communication between the engine stop and start ECU and the skid control ECU for 2.4 seconds. 3) Read the DTC using Subaru Select Monitor. Disconnect the negative battery cable before unplugging the connector at the HVACCM module. 1 +380956184824, , U0164 HVAC, OBD-II . . It is necessary to enter in Dtc u0327 software incompatibility with vehicle security control module, Dtc u0155 lost communication with instrument panel cluster (ipc) control module, How to subscribe to SiriusXM Satellite Connect the red lead of your voltmeter to each B+ (battery voltage) supply coming into the HVACCM connector and the black lead of your voltmeter to a good ground (if not sure, battery negative always works). The power outlet can be used when Vehicles Lost Communication with "Seat Control Module A" (U0208), Brake Actuator (Skid Control ECU) Communication Stop Mode, Power source or inside air conditioning amplifier assembly, Air conditioning amplifier assembly branch wire or connector. U0164? (b) Measure the voltage according to the value(s) in the table below. A Controller Area Network (CAN) is a vehicle bus standard designed to interconnect automotive devices without a host computer. This code means that the HVAC Control Module (HVACCM) and other control modules on the vehicle are not communicating with each other. Before connecting the connectors back to the HVACCM, make these few voltage checks. , , , U0164, hvac (HVACCM). , HVACCM . , . REPAIR OR REPLACE HARNESS OR CONNECTOR (GROUND CIRCUIT). ECU (Techstream display: PM2 Gateway), troubleshoot for U1002 and check for malfunctions >>RefertotheStoredLostCommunicationtestprocedure. Most auto repair shops charge between $75 and $150 per hour. *document.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a4039e2d7ead791bfd05a9fb9733335f" );document.getElementById("a2cb17007d").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); : . , . CAN , , , . The circuit most often used to communicate with is known as Controller Area Network bus communications, or simply put, CAN bus. If any doors need to be opened in order to check connectors, open cause the resistance value to change. , - , U0164, , , , HVACCM. PerformBODYVERIFICATIONTESTVER1. 1943-1945 . Is the air conditioner data no-receive detected in several modules-. Pull the connectors apart and carefully inspect the terminals (the metal parts) inside the connectors. See if they look burned or have a green tint indicating corrosion. Locate where the ground attaching points are on the vehicle and make sure that these connections are clean and tight. There goes the redneck jumper and the final result is. When disconnecting the cable, some systems need to be initialized after the cable (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Cooperation control of air conditioner does not operate properly. Dodge Durango (HB) - service repair manual 2005 year. Example: If the eco run vehicle converter assembly (backup boost converter) detects overcurrent in the power source circuit for EPS and the power supply is shut off, DTC U0131 and P323B (Backup Boost Converter) will be stored. Gain access to a wiring diagram and determine where the main powers and grounds come into the HVACCM. Im going to have to bite the bullet here and take it to the dealer. , CAN , HVACCM, / . Standard backlash: your question in our FREE car repair forums, HVAC Control Module wont power up / inoperative, Short to power or ground in either CAN bus circuit. DISCONNECT CABLE FROM NEGATIVE BATTERY TERMINAL. Or I'll send mine out for full inspection. Before measuring the resistance, leave the vehicle as is for at least O Programa de Ps-Graduao em Letras decorre de uma proposta apresentada pelo Departamento de Letras da Universidade Federal do Maranho e elaborada em consonncia com os dispositivos do Estatuto, do Regimento Geral, do Regimento dos Cursos de Ps-Graduao stricto sensu e lato sensu da UFMA e deste Regimento Interno, estando previsto no Plano de Desenvolvimento Institucional - PDI - 2012-2016.O Curso de Mestrado Acadmico em Letras, do Programa de Ps-Graduao em Letras - PGLetras, aprovado pela Resoluo 1007/2013 - CONSEPE-UFMA, de 6 de maio de 2013, e recomendado pela CAPES com nota 3 e rea de concentrao em Estudos da Linguagem, est estruturado em trs linhas de pesquisa: Linha 1 - Descrio e Anlise do Portugus Brasileiro; Linha 2 - Estudos de Linguagem e Prticas Discursivas e 3- Estudos Tericos e Crticos em Literatura. Most of these HVACCM must be programmed, or calibrated to the vehicle to be installed correctly. (c) Measure the voltage according to the value(s) in the table below. If any of these CAN communication malfunctions occurs, the respective DTC will be stored. 1) Shake the harness, and check for poor contact. IT WORKS!!! AMPLIFIER BRANCH WIRE), CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (POWER SOURCE TERMINAL). , , , , CAN. (b) Disconnect the air conditioning amplifier connector. inspection procedure. The power outlet can be used for 12 V accessories that run on less than 10 - / , . REPLACE AIR CONDITIONING AMPLIFIER ASSEMBLY. With the Key On, Engine Off, you should see about 0.5 volts and fluctuating slightly. The engine stop and start ECU communicates with the SFI system, ABS/VSC system, EPS, combination meter system, airbag system, body system, and air conditioning system via CAN. for July's Cummins of the Month Challenge! is reconnected (See page ). Luggage compartment (vehicles without the 120 V AC) The hvac control module is typically located behind the dash, usually in the center of the vehicle, or behind the instrument panel. With the black lead of your voltmeter connected to a good ground, connect the red lead to CAN B+. http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/3rd-gen-powertrain/2014730-mpg-threads.html#post23312562, http://www.rambodybuilder.com/2006/docs/wd/dr/wiringdiagrams/8w42airconditioning.pdf, 15168234788941375135054_1516823503076.jpg, 15168235395001910988035_1516823561356.jpg, 15168255974621565670433_1516825623599.jpg, 15168265056181781374987_1516826531323.jpg, 15168265450601962733596_1516826564506.jpg, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. CONNECTOR (CANH, CANL), CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (AIR CONDITIONING AMPLIFIER ASSEMBLY - BATTERY . I found another SWITCHED IGNITION + just next to the Pink Gray. Dodge If the backlash is not as specified, adj Power outlets (12 V DC) Wait at least 90 seconds after disconnecting the cable from the negative (-) (a) Measure the resistance according to the value(s) in the table below. 3rd Gen. HINT: , HVACCM. HVACCM, , U0164, , , . When the CAN bus is in idle mode, both lines carry 2.5V. short. Look for scraping, rubbing, bare wires, burn spots or melted plastic. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); There is no communication from the air conditioning amplifier assembly. NOTICE: System Name , , . Troubleshooting steps would be similar. U0164, .. . It is not intended as repair advice and we are not responsible for any actions IMO/assumption, the module has to be live first in order for ECM to communicate with. >>DiagnoseandrepairtheDTC. -, . HVACCM . Give me options and I can buy one on my own. HVACCM . Check all grounds for the HVACCM. Therefore a DTC indicating a CAN communication error with the applicable system will be stored in addition to DTC P323B. , CAN B +. Anyway the wires look good as you can see in the pic. NOTE:CheckforFCMconfiguration,CANBorChardwareelectrical,VINMissing/Mismatch,batteryorigni-tionrelatedDTCs. Check all fuses that power up the HVACCM module on this vehicle. U1002 is not output from power management control ECU (Techstream display: Operating the ignition switch, any other switches or a door triggers DESCRIPTION If the eco run vehicle converter assembly (backup boost converter) detects overcurrent in a power source circuit, power supply to the circuit is shut off. CAN B + ( MSCAN + ) CAN B- ( MSCAN ). Check voltage at fuse #32 input and output, if low then TIPM is defective. NOTE: This information is presented for information purposes only. . The most common failure is a circuit fault which causes the loss of power or ground to the hvac control module. HVACCM, U0164 , . 210 209 This is a generic communication system diagnostic trouble code that applies to most OBD-II vehicle makes and models. Since communication relies on a voltage differential between the two bus lines, the CAN bus is NOT sensitive to inductive spikes, electrical fields, or other noise. REPAIR OR REPLACE HARNESS OR CONNECTOR (POWER SOURCE CIRCUIT), CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (GROUND TERMINAL). Operating the ignition switch, any switches or any doors triggers related ECU CAN B. 4.4 . Disassembly Going to splice them together. JavaScript is disabled. To listen to a satellite radio broadcast in When disconnecting the cable from the negative (-) battery terminal, initialize If you can access codes from the HVACCM, then the U0164 code is either intermittent or a memory code. CAN bus main wires and between CAN bus branch wires. The devices have programmed information about what messages are needed to be exchanged on the serial data circuits. CHECKFORANYOFTHEFOLLOWINGACTIVEDTCS. You should see a reading of battery voltage. CAN Communication Circuit Check. Was the basic diagnostic procedure performed up to STEP 8-, Diagnostic Procedure with Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) > DTC U0164 LOST COMMUNICATION WITH HVAC CONTROL MODULE, Perform the basic diagnostic procedure. A forum community dedicated to Dodge Cummins Diesel truck owners and enthusiasts. SST: 09564-32011 . Refer to DTC P2120 (See page ). Turn the ignition switch off before inspecting CAN bus wires for a ground Fix them securely in place onto the carpet. , . , , , . However the back of the plug at the FICM looked black as if it was burned. O curso de Mestrado Acadmico em Letras funciona no turno vespertino, no Centro de Cincias Humanas - CCH. PM2 Gateway), U1002 is output from power management control ECU (Techstream display: Luggage compartment (vehicles with the 120 V AC) the vehicle, a subscription to the SiriusXM (a) Disconnect the cable from the negative (-) battery terminal before measuring

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