to ease removal of these bushings by taking a 1/4 inchallen wrench API treestands, As to the shrink wrap on the chains that came originally on the This tubing even makes it easier to place the stand onto the tree I didn't use the plastic covers on my API chains once they wore out I just slit a piece of stiff garden hose and wired it onto the chain where the chain rests on the back of the tree. if you read the link. the i/d needs to be 5/8 outside is 3/4 rubber hose is a different size, the reason you use the clear tubing so when you boil it it gets soft enough to be pulled on the chain .when it cools it is tight on chain my works perfect. no noise! I ordered some 2040 roller chain one time for an old API Shoot n' Star. (5/8 ths of an inch) by .750 O.D. 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You'll never miss the Summit. wire feed thru the vinyl tubing better take one end of the wire and form due to the chain being stiffer and making it easier to reach around the tree You can but the chains and all the stuff to do it for $30. if you used rubber hose that wasnt tight what would stop it from rolling on chain and making stand slip.you choose, click on link read..follow steps..i did not create this.. the link is a person who figured this out .im just sharing it because it works!!!!!! I just wanted to present the other side of that topic. I haven't replaced the chains, but really like the clear vinyl tubing on the chains instead of the shrink wrap. Cookie Policy - aJ shapeby folding it over onto itself approx. Terms of Service - I need some new chains and a seat for a API Grand slam myself. Cover them with Vinyl tubing. You also have to pop out the black plastic ends from the stand, but I've seen no ill effects from doing this. for the moment. My fix is to take the s&$t off. the links of the chain previously after aligning up the old wrap with the I called them and ordered over the phone. Is "A2040" a chain size or a strength class? it is advisable to save each end sometimes getting caught on tree ! Just curious, are you just blowing off steam or did you really threaten me? protruding from the tubing and tie it off to something that will not of shrink wrap come in handy, you can align the old wrap with the ends of the Like the one guy said it is cheap, when something is cheap you wouldn't imagine all the uses it gets. I bought an API Grand Slam Supreme climbing tree stand back in the 90's. tubing instead of heat shrink: Go to your local hardware store and buy 12 feet of clear vinyl As far as the seats I could probably use a couple myself. They used 2 diff ones I believe but 2040 was the most used. ever did , which is a big plus. its best to go thru the link links and be extremely careful not to let the drill bit ride against any part of A2040 is cheap motorcycle chain I have it by the spoils in the shop. Daniel the best way on those API is to do it yourself. Product prices are accurate as of the date/time indicated and are subject to change. UPC 811918020178 is associated with API Outdoors Replacement Power Gripping Treestand Chains - 65''. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. As long as they have been for sale they might ship them to you. Just checking. I bought a grand slam supreme from a pawn shop years ago and I called API directly and the gal sold me chains and a new seat for around $60 shipped. My wife found some but it was too small and they didn't have any other so I ordered off ebay for $8. I've seen it used on everything from conveyors, bicycles, Harleys and my favorite those old pedal cars from the 50s. Note: if having trouble getting the tubing to slide over the onboth ends as the plastic coating will slip if not removed . tubing over it as well. My only complaint is it is too comfortable. what i noticed the most about this upgrade was.the cable stayed in the shape of a U all the time.up or down.unlike the old shrinktube coating that would kink at any break in shrink coating. stand and take the opposite end from theJ bendof the wire and tie it Copyright @ 2022 upcitemdb.com. and after drilling these holes trim off the excess tubing you have that extends Myself and several others have been using this Vinyl tubing now Your recently viewed items and featured recommendations, Select the department you want to search in. Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Disclaimer: The information is all provided as-is, with no guarantees on availability or accuracy of the results. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Do the other section of the chain the same way to get the vinyl If you don't use anything on the chains, that will happen..they will also tend to rattle in the metal rails as you walk and also catch more sand. That section always caves in grabs the tree bark and hangs up as you climb when the plastic gets old. Using a 7/16ths(.437) drill bit , drill the holes in the tubing removal. You will then remove the plastic bushings in the ends of the stand Share in the stories, pictures, tips, tactics and learn how to be a better bowhunter. Family member just gave me an older API climber. The factory stuff was pretty much useless since it would wear to a Can you heat the clear vinyl as we do the shrink tubing with a torch to get a tight fit without burning it???? API Outdoors Replacement Power Gripping Treestand Chains - 65'', Sporting Goods > Outdoor Recreation > Hunting & Shooting > Hunting > Tree Stands. them up a bit and this stepprolongs thelife of the tubing on the Customer Reviews, including Product Star Ratings help customers to learn more about the product and decide whether it is the right product for them. itthru the tubing without hanging . I have run API stands exclusively for over 20 years, I pick up new shrink wrap on Amazon every couple years, replaced the chains I think once on each as well. very informative and what was suggeseted appeared to be safe and sound ideas. I believe it was finally the API website# that crossed. base to get ahold of when placing your stand on a tree. This page works best with JavaScript. The chains are pretty rusty, so I need to replace them. Disabling it will result in some disabled or missing features. Next step is a bit tricky but well worth the time, Place a large pan of water on the kitchen stove and heat it to a I dont want to see anyone get hurt. Best of all it is cheaper They used to sell it. I am in the same boat. small amount of deburing on the vinyl tubing where the drill left vinyl the plastic can easily be removed by using the short end of an allen climbing irregular shaped trees), The vinyl tubing holds much better than the old shrink wrap Thanks for your input! Now that you have the chains covered with the tubing let them cool Another great benefit to using the Vinyl tubing is that it also which makes it easier to get over the chain. Next take a small hand file and debur the inside edges of the To calculate the overall star rating and percentage breakdown by star, we dont use a simple average. Here's what you do to fix the chains by covering them with Vinyl Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, performance, troubleshooting, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! I don't think this would fall under jury-rigged. Awesome stand!! I took a close look at timbertall stands before. I hunt a lot more than the average Joe too. always climb hardwood trees which are much rougher barked than pines are. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, http://www.guncustomizing.com/API-Treestand.htm, VerticalScope Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. It isn't cheap. JavaScript is disabled. By logging into your account, you agree to our, Location: Stafford Virginia Stafford,Va, The following errors occurred with your submission. Water hose could quiet it down a bit. Please make sure that you are posting in the form of a question. the chain .This is easily done by just cutting a slit along the length of helps when getting it over the chain as it is a tight fit. sometimes you may have to use a few hammer blows against the pliers to aid their tubing of the stand and will last for many years to come . remove the factory heat shrink from them. Bass Pro wants over $60. pick up one of the chains for the Lasts a whole lot longer than shrink tubing. section(ends with holes) of the shrink wrap from the chain which makes it easier (3/4 ths of an inch) use a 6 feet length of I.D. I've never bought replacements before, so do I have cheaper options here? A forum community dedicated to Pennsylvanias hunters and enthusiasts Come join the discussion about trails, licenses, fishing, game laws, styles, reviews, optics, accessories, classifieds, and more! stove using no heat), The pan needs to be large enough to take one of the 6 foot Still holding up. Iused a single strand of 12-2 solid copper wire which is If its oiled u can just decrease it with something like brake cleaner. It also helps the chain keep it's shape so that it doesn't get hung up when climbing. I have use it hard for about 8 years and have replaced the chain with shrink wrap several times with material purchased from electrical supply houses. other end of the vinyl tubingand thentakethe end of this wire I've tried the heat shrink tube. I didn't use tubing on my replacement chain. Skip the Heat shrink it tears and wears to quickly. chain , you can easily reheat the tubing with it partially over the chain Those cable on your Summit should never wear out. By the way, my API Bowhunter is the best darned stand ever, and I would gladly buy another if I ever needed to replace it!! I don't think God intended for us to be this busy. Wrap it with something for sure. climbing . try it .it works for 8 bucks at home depot!! I've got all the stuff to do mine. with enough to form several loops around itself to hold better and not slip submerge it into the hot water to let it heat up by soaking it for a few Ihave a couple of stands with the tubing painted on them and This may seem like a crazy question, but it is in all seriousness. Just bought a used API and discovered what a PITA that flaky old wrap is. But, I fixed the rattle and didn't care about all the other. Products with UPC 811918020178 were listed on the following websites. aluminum tubing where the plastic bushings were removed, by doing so you are What should you look for in deciding if you need to change the cables on a summit? drilling was no problem.. took a exacto knife and took away any burs in holes. Years back I used a heat gun and put pex tubing over mine. I might check out the Tractor Supply thing then, if it's the exact same thing. yes there is. will need a section of wire to be used for pulling the chain through the tubing, Advertising - Very good pointHave you experienced this rolling? I think the vinyl tube needs to be 5/8 and you need to soak it in warm water to soften it so it will slide over the chain easier. I only got a couple of years out of the shrink wrap before it got busted up and noisy. then place the chains into the stand making sure slide over the chain covering it , the more chain you get covered with the longer which you can throw away. securely to the last link in one end of the chain. I hate to overpay for anything, but I would not personally trust my life to some sort of jury-rigged fix just so I could save $50. 1/4 to 3/8 inch and old shrink wrap and it makes it much easier to climb with(especially when Here is a bit of info that will help many whom own and use Now take the clear vinyl tubing from the hot water and This is where the old sections of the tubing prior to heating), Now the next step is to drill holes in the vinyl tubing between the pins go in correctly through the holes you just drilled(you may have to do a One of my tree stands is an API. Go to tractor supply and get 10 foot of combine chain. I bought all the stuff last year on Amazon.com after looking at this thread. tubing prior to doing this. Instead, our system considers things like how recent a review is and if the reviewer bought the item on Amazon. Take the wrap off completely and dip the chain in Plastic DipThe stuff sold for took handles. Had to use para cord tied to the chain and had the tubing on the paracord. Guess what..it was a part # for a combine chain. they have held up well in the last few years of hard use, if the tubing becomes The only thing that you likely will have to replace is the shrink tubing that goes over the cable. Check this out. off as they will become stiffer and shrink a bit(back to the original stiffness From what I've read the chain is rated at 3500-3700lbs, which should be plenty. tubing. easily available, it is best to strip any plastic coating from the wire paint is the part of the tubing that meets the tree while climbing and i most andclamping the longer endwith vise grip pliers to pull them to make the Maybe API buys the same chain and does the testing/engineering to validate them for bearing those loads overhead while live human beings are suspended from them. Look at the chain link on the api and it will have the numbers you need. Sell the Summit and buy a Treewalker. words..hehe. and tubing into a coil to place both back into hot water to soften it back up I tore the covering off the "original API chain", looked on the API website and ran every number I could find. I have probably had this stand for 8 years. But without knowing that, I personally wouldnt be comfortable. We'll certainly do our best to make the service highly-available though, and the results accurate. frazzle with only a few climbings of rough/hardwood tree's but there IS a much better solution to covering the chains that will untie the wire from the end of the chain you had it tied to and your almost formany years and it is still as good as new , just like it was when i put We will check it out. Krylon and it will adhere well to the Vinyl tubing and last for a long time. Worked really well. it only needs to be a foot or so longer than your tubing but longer is ok. done. http://www.apioutdoors.com/api_outdocall/index.tpl, http://www.adventuresoutdoors.freehomepage.com/. UPC 811918020178 has following Product Name Variations: EcoProCote Acri-Soy Wood Floor Sidewalk and Concrete Sealer 1 Gal Matte. Well for what its worth I already went thru this. it on. for the seat section . with the section of tubing over the wire which it tied off to Check out the Louisville,ky craigslist and do a search for API replacement chains. tubing the harder it is to pull so this is why it is a big benefit to heat the Sounds like I may have to run up to tractor supply and see what I can find. As far as covering. It cracks very easy, The pre wrapped chain from api lasts much longer. Also if wanted you can paint the tubing to camo it a bit if needed i found mine back in plumbing. It also analyzed reviews to verify trustworthiness. another benefit to doing this is that it is a bit stiffer than the Then get some clear vinyl to wrap the chains. API didnt go under contrary to the links info! sections of the clear vinyl tubing and make a coil of it and still be able to chain links with any nicks from the drill bit. If you Google it you will find many people have done this. something stable, all you have to do is pull on the clear tubing to get it to Probably 15 years ago API went to a better shrink wrap. When they redesigned the area where the cable locks into place the tubing became more prone to tearing than it did with the previous design where you flipped over the end cover. Do your SPORTIN' in WHARTON, Population 92. Might try that route?? Talk about the passion that is bowhunting. After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. Top subscription boxes right to your door, 1996-2022, Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates, API Tree Stand Rep Chains Magnum Replacement Chains 2/Pk, Learn more how customers reviews work on Amazon, See all details for API Tree Stand Rep Chains Magnum Replacement Chains 2/Pk. He is not the only one to do this. Next take the chains out of your stand and lay them to the side About the only place mine has shown any major wear off with the wrench to hold inside the inner edge of the bushings and pulling them out, The only difference was supposed to be that the API chains were coated to help with corrosion. stick very well and only wears off where the chain meets the tree whilst out. Archive - API stands ? I started to just re heat shrink the existing chains but have read that the chains could be subjected to stress cracks over time. All rights reserved. boiling state note: (do the following step after removing the water from the beyond the length of the chain. chain as it is easily seen through the clear tubing as to how it was covering feedthe J formedend of the wire through it until it comes out the best thing i ever did to aAPI treestand . tubingfor each chain of your stand , one for the climber section and one Copyright 2000-2022 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. The A2040 chain is the exact same chain that is purchased by API. But, I used a piece of garden hose on the backs to keep the chain from caving in on the tree and getting hung up as you climb. Also with no wrap the holes in chain for pins are easier to see. It worked and was a lot cheaper, but what I got was heavy oiled and picked up sand real easy. last for many years of hard use and it's easily done. byuntying the end to whatever you are using as a hold and form the chain All rights reserved. You will find that the vinyl covered chains fit well in the square and out of stock. than buying the shrink wrap which only wears out ! movewhile pulling the vinyl tubing over the chain. It is exactly what api used. That's really the only area of the chain that needs plastic anyway. A lot of shrink tubing you buy over the counter is only 2 to 1 and will not fit over the dowels and recover all the way down to the cable. Has anyone replaced these chains?? as I have painted several after placing the Vinyl tubing on, the paint seems to Contact Us - I'd like to replace the chain and covering. This works!! Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. Are you saying for someone to buy non-API chains (not intended for climbing stand use) and figure out a way to rig them in place, or are you saying you can find a bargain on replacement equipment approved for climbing purposes? Do Not Sell My Personal Information -. by doing this you are making the vinyl tubing soft and flexible which 1 visitor has found this accurate, what do you think? minutes. shavings), below is a picture as sometimes a pic is worth a thousand the proper links to allow the pins to go through. I was recently told you can get the chain for these at tractor supply. Bell & Carlson Stock - 700 BDL LA - Sporter, Any 80s or 90s to early 2000s single cab 4x4s, http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1596618, Summit Tree Stand shrink wrap tubing $15.99 at Midway, http://www.guncustomizing.com/API-Treestand.htm, Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1. Next get the chains that you previously laid to the side and then Hence why the numbers match. where the chain goes in the tubing, this plastic bushingwill NOT used any you will have to research the DIY section and in the last 18 months there were threads on what chain to buy and how to wrap it in rubber so it does'nt rattle. I checked API's website, where they are about $75 plus shipping. The chain is stamped A2040. quietens the stand while carrying it, NO more rattling chains while walking with the stand on your back. undone while pulling the vinyl tubing over the chain. chain ends simply mark the locations for the holes to be drilled in the vinyl Next while the vinyl tubing is heating up in the hot water , you scuffed a bit just touch it up with a bit more spray paint. Dont use the stand anymore but checked it out in the attic couple months ago. Does anyone know where to get replacement cables for climbing stands, I've got a few different kind that needs replaced. Someone had some posted for a long time for I think $30-35. The way the cable is twisted and then the dowels affixed almost prohibits the strands from straying. On the Archerytalk post he said he found it at Harbor freight for $3. to remove the bushings , make yourself a tool So I went to TSC and got the same oneexcept I think the TSC chain is a much stouter chain. You just need to make sure it is a 3 to 1 shrink ratio. Make sure to get the thin-walled tubing, otherwise it won't fit into the stand. tubing as the chains used are only 5 ft. 6 inches long the size you need is .625 I can deal with the noise if I have to. This stand has performed well over the years but now the shrink wrap covering the chains is toast and there's some rust showing. You may try calling them. You can also get replacement sleeves for your API chains, Summit cables, and Loggy Bayou cables on API for a great deal and there heavy duty. You can get 22mm shrink wrap on ebay for less than $10. I boiled the tubing to make it pliable and then greased the chain up and slid the chain through it. JavaScript is disabled. Sources? A forum community dedicated to bow and crossbow owners and archery enthusiasts. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use. I went to Lowes and got some Clear plastic tubing about the diameter size as the chain. the chain links as you do NOT want to weaken the Interesting. You can still see all customer reviews for the product. I think I'm on year 5 with the vinyl and it hasn't worn at all. New they're like $80. Only thing that stopped me from getting one was the plastic hose. Thanks , I use an API and will keep that info and look into when needed but so far mine has held up during the few yrs I've had it. Once you have the tubing completely covering the chain you simply the wrap and then simply peeling it off to save the hole positions . pinching it together with plierswhich willenhance feeding In his post he said he used the same chain as the original in his stand. Privacy Statement - Garden hose prevents it. I replaced the original stuff that would only last about 2 years with the newer stuff and haven't had to replace it since. chains when done correctly. Disclosure: We may earn a commission when you use one of our links to make a purchase. You can paint the clear tubing with a quality spray paint such as Note: be sure to to know where to place the holes needed in the tubing your fixing to replace on The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, http://www.ebay.com/itm/API-Outdoor853?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a2d9e2b05, http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trkN+CABLE+REPLACEMENT+COVERS&_sacat=0&_from=R40, Sights, scopes, stabilizers and dampeners, Rests, Releases, Grips, Wrist Straps and Slings, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. (this took some work). only removing very small amounts of metal from the inner square edges to smooth Plan on doing it tomorrow. Its from China and took nearly 2 weeks but I did get it. drill the holes to where the load will be held against a cross pin in the chain

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