So the probe goes through the nylon backing ring first and the rubber o-ring is closest to the tractor and not the implement? "@type": "WebPage", In any case they are very common. By the barrels, do you mean the whole inside? have had problems over the last several years with quick couplings leaking. Neil, I'm not really too familiar with the exact make-up of the 140, but I believe (???) Actually never noticed that they existed! Failing that, go to the shop and try comparing it with what they have got there in their boxes. So make sure the threaded connection is tight, clean both male and female quick connects, check for leaks. %
document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. In my opinion this was a great idea with the "quick connect" but an absolutely horrible design that is prone to leaking. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Do you have to keep adding hydraulic fluid? The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU77RGMSDIE, Medium Frame Compact Utility Tractors (MCUT), Large Frame Compact Utility Tractors (LCUT), VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Before you start grabbing your leaking coupler to get a closer look, read the following tips to make sure that you dont get burned, literally. You say it leaks from the bottom- do you mean the bottom of the vertical shaft, or bottom of the rear of the coupler? That seems to fix the problem on most of the machines but we've also had a small percentage where the entire connector had to be replaced. Despite the male probes all being the same size, I've come across dozens of different sized o-rings within the female couplers depending on how they are made internally. It is prolly a number 8 hose thread size. The dealer has taken three warranty kicks at the can, and each time the drips stopped temporarily - and now it's doing it again. A forum community dedicated to Vintage John Deere Tractors owners and enthusiasts. Our fix is usually either changing the fittings, or changing the whole "manifold". Going on the forum i saw this thread, curiosity sent me here and You answered my questions. Should I consider changing from the stock John Deere breakaway couplers to something else. Bruce. Likely not worn out. Here are some tips from hydraulic quick connect experts who have seen it all and been in the industry for decades. We welcome the opportunity to communicate and share industry information with you! "@type": "Organization", You mention 'turn them on'- do you mean turning the lever that moves that vertical shaft to lock the coupler in place? endobj
For the past 17 years he has been with Stucchi, Inc. beginning with its organic start-up to its current market leading position within the flat face coupler category. I have a 2017 BX23S with just under 300 hours. I might add that the original poppet style are the only ones I do NOT have problems with. The technical storage or access is required to create user profiles to send advertising, or to track the user on a website or across several websites for similar marketing purposes. JavaScript is disabled. 1980 317 with KT17 series 2/remote oil filter kit. You can knock off the top cap, and replace those rings plus the cap. So do you just put a wrench on them and back them off? 1939 John Deere Model H (Hand Start), 1974 John Deere 112 Electric Lift, 1987 John Deere 332 Special Edition, Brinly Plow, Brinly Cultivator (11 tine), JD spreader, 43 Snow/Dirt blade with Angling kit, 54 4 Way front blade, 47 Mower, 6 cast wheel weights, 4 suitcase weights. Learn more about replacing Bobcat quick couplers and realize the benefits of quick connect systems designed by Stucchi. endobj
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I fear JD is going to want alot for the rebuild kit, about $80 per side which, I believe is no more than about $1 worth of o-rings. Very, very common for this type of coupler to leak when all pressure is released. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. endstream
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Leaking hydraulic fluid in any type of hydraulic application poses serious risks for operators and the environment. Releasing all system pressure after parking helps to reduce it, too. We offer personalized service to assist you with solving any hydraulic leak issue to improve your overall business operations. We have seen this occasionally. The quick-discs on mine have been a problem since the get-go. The search engine finds lots of examples here where replacing the o-ring solves a leaking quick-connect. The male end now has a ball instead of a pin. H2P0 BCo.#r_ /
A dry plug can tear the o-ring just enough to cause a minor leak. "@type": "ImageObject", Big advantage to have multiple couplers on a tractor, (I have triple remotes on three field tractors, even though only one machine needs three, while several need two) or carry a few rings in the tool box, along with a pick and WD40. https://www.advancedfluidsolutions.d-straight-hydraulic-steel-adaptor-3000-p.asp. leak would stop for a short time then resume and get worse over time. This is a new machine, 16 hours. It is definetly leaking from the tractor. Stucchi USA sends out industry & product information related emails. My newest JD is a 1983- so hydraulic couplers have never been a problem that I couldn't fix with the right JD parts. "datePublished": "2004-05-11", Without a subpoena, voluntary compliance on the part of your Internet Service Provider, or additional records from a third party, information stored or retrieved for this purpose alone cannot usually be used to identify you. 1999 455 with homebuilt loader, 3 pt hitch, 72" plow, 47 blower, 42 tiller, tilt/dump MCS, Curtis cab. I do not understand why all the attachments I have have ball type replacements even though I got them from 4 different people. I can see a rubber o-ring inside the connector which i suspect has become hardened or deformed over time. i have a 4020 john deere. Unfortunately the connection at the tractor is 7/8" JIC and not BSP - the sparex version of this connector is 66.24 each. Are you just using a box wrench to get them off? "image": { What thurlow said about rusty couplers is valid, as well as damage to the coupler with multiple disconnects under pressure. 1 0 obj
Since all 4 are close together how hard is this to do? Even with gloves on, a pinhole leak with high velocity can exert in excess of 600 feet per second, which may inject hydraulic fluid right through thick leather gloves and into your skin. Im being lazy, does anyone know the size of the orings? I would stay with original parts before going to an off-brand. "name": "Yesterday's Tractor Co.", 4) Do not re-use O-rings Even if you decide to reassemble a fitting (we recommend replacing the fitting altogether), you should never re-use an O-ring. You should always check your fluid levels daily, that being said, if you know there is a leak then you need to check them more often. Still leaking, replace quick connect. By the barrels, do you mean the whole inside? You can knock off the top cap, and replace those rings plus the cap. "description":"Discussion of JD Hydraulic outlets leaking in the Tractor Talk forum followed by comments. I have never changed mine. The rebuild kit, the price you mention, is not just o-rings. I have slim pickings in my area Hopefully you won't be disappointed with your new couplers. There may be two of these, one top and bottom, be sure to press in on both of them to release pressure before disconnection. +o*qX*I@&\N*+T)vQeJZRJbwbLlxwx. We get a good two or three turns out of some of them. Its fairly common to have these leak. Easy to replace in the field. Be sure to examine the fitting connection before over torqueing the fitting instinctively. Then alot of hydraulic fluid flows out the bottom of the break away coupler unit. I've never used anything but JD parts on the couplers, so I don't know how other supplier parts work. BUNA Temperature range: -30F/-34C to 250F/121C, VITON Temperature range: 400F/204C to 600F/315C, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, https://www.homedepot.com/p/K-Tool-DkuJvValfBzT8xtyJDBoC4E4QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds, https://www.precisionplasticball.com/blog/post/blog-blog-buna-vs-viton-whats-difference, https://www.amazon.com/Sterling-Seal-OR90BLKBUN113X100-Durometer-Hardness/dp/B01ELJB2M0, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. They cost about $20 and arent worth fixing- to my knowledge anyway. { The only benefit of Viton would be a higher operating temperature. 4 0 obj
OC, Could be a couple of things. You mention 'turn them on'- do you mean turning the lever that moves that vertical shaft to lock the coupler in place? Hi - 2 of the the quick release couplings on the back of the tractor (IH 685) are dripping steadily when they are connected, but dry when not. Either you quick connect is defective, has some dirt in it, of it is leaking from the threaded connection. over the past winter i replaced both barrels and that seems to cure the problem. By the barrels, do you mean the whole inside? <>>>
Has anyone else had this problem before and if so what did you do to handle it? I guess I have to tear it out again and replace them and try again. "@id": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/" In order to cover what you should do for leaking auxiliary hydraulic quick couplers, lets first review what you absolutely should NOT do in the case of hydraulic quick connect leaks. I would clean it up and see if it continues leaking, if so take it to the dealer as its still under warranty. You say it leaks from the bottom- do you mean the bottom of the vertical shaft, or bottom of the rear of the coupler? Do you lose all the fluid when you change out these O-rings? We use cookies to optimize our website and our service. leak would stop for a short time then resume and get worse over time. last 2 or 3 months before turning to mush and leaking. endobj
The most obvious is the "O" rings inside of the female fitting and the other is a mismatch of the two parts. If you are experiencing leaking hydraulic couplers on your skid steer machine, here are some tips on what NOT to do: 1) Do not over tighten thinking thats all you need to do you may overtighten the coupler thinking the tighter the better, although this can ruin the integrity of the seal and is one of the most common culprits of leaking couplers. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I moved a full dump truck of dirt today and I definitely noticed it getting much worse. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for statistical purposes. }, "height": 57 I would stay with original parts before going to an off-brand. I have seen rusted/pitted male couplers cause the problems you're having.. How badly are your hose ends worn? The technical storage or access is necessary for the legitimate purpose of storing preferences that are not requested by the subscriber or user. But a bad hose end could rough up the new o-ring in one application, is the issue. ;) For my Ford tractors, I need the Ford orings - the cheap ones from the supply store do not cut it for this application, not the right material. You need to determine where the oil is leaking from. Kubota salesman here. When releasing pressure before disconnecting Bobcat auxiliary hydraulic couplers, most Bobcats will have a pressure disconnect that releases pressure if you push in on it before disconnecting. It is leaking at the bottom of the vertical shaft and could be that o-ring but, it was replaced when the other ones were. O-rings should suffice to fix most leaks. }, "url": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/graphics/smllogo.png", its nice to not have to add hydraulic fluid any more or have the leaking mess down the back end of the tractor. No luck. 1800hrs Ruegg Cat1 3pt Hitch. }. I do not know if this relates to a JD, but it is my experience. "publisher": { Stucchi Offers Leak Free Skid Steer Hydraulic Solutions. have had problems over the last several years with quick couplings leaking. I have already changed both male and female fittings. Even a small pinhole leak can quickly penetrate gloves when exerted under high pressure and velocity. Press J to jump to the feed. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. -!.AR*wfF{sPr#2QQI*"nx6d|p-bSZV|p6E Oz| b~ ,v
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If you take it apart again use the 20 series old style o-ring/backup ring combination on the barrels. They make the couplers slide harder, but they work better than the cup seals on worn couplers If you take it apart again use the 20 series old style o-ring/backup ring combination on the barrels. "@id":"https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=ttalk&th=370257", How badly are your hose ends worn? "width": 200, Change). Simple fix and it works. Rusty 140h3 is a '73 with the original Pioneer female quick-connect couplers. One, as rudy said, wrong part(s).Another could just be a tolerance stack upmax od on coupler bore/o-ring groove, min. I do not know if this relates to a JD, but it is my experience. Yeah, the O-ring is deep inside the female fitting so you'll need a small dentist hooked pick or a small knitting needle to reach in and pull the O-ring out. You mention 'turn them on'- do you mean turning the lever that moves that vertical shaft to lock the coupler in place? The deere # is AM37983 for the original poppet style. I either have to stop the leaking or find hydraulic fluid that is high in nitrogen and leave it as is for side dressing. 2 0 obj
6) Dont forget about flammability People sometimes forget that even a pinhole leak may create a mist-like cloud of flammable vapor. Always consult equipment operator's manual and follow safety instructions before operating or servicing any tractor or equipment, or attempting any task. dia on plug, and o-ring. "author": { I've been using this style of quick-connect for almost 30 years and never had one leak like this. 5) Do not just assume its the fitting thats leaking The leak point may be different from the drip point as drips occur at the lowest point of gravity. For me, I'd never set foot in a TSC store until last month when I bought my first tractor. Contact us to learn more about replacing couplers with safety and affordability including Bobcat auxiliary hydraulic couplers. X/:g0q7"9?b g_oo~Zl?/gqf9/R&K lN"ZpfyiXYvVV30sr&,vUka3'}1s+O:ogZgL^K #\#Tv\f6d+4i%I$K^%o-M= |cyKj+oeU
qnGhqm|-%pfO5jXMb1p>Mdw1kGx=w;;!~ss|Wy Qf'g0d1wh X1{VZ:@9~_#tr p(u'sg=;-yx. the couplers are attached to the bumper. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V. window.dataLayer = window.dataLayer || []; function gtag(){dataLayer.push(arguments);} gtag('js', new Date()); gtag('config', 'G-04SJ2KTSCK',{ cookie_flags: 'max-age=7200;secure;samesite=none' }); Welcome! Use some brake cleaner to clean and and check it If it continues to leak defiantly call your dealer. Usually chips out a piece of the hose end coupler when uncoupling- but you've established the leak is from the vertical shaft, so I would go back to JD rings and go from there. 2022 TractorByNet.com | TractorByNet is a registered trademark of IMC Digital Universe, Inc. Other trademarks on this page are the property of their respective owners. One thing to always remember is that hydraulic fluid leaks, especially when pressurized, can pose serious safety concerns and this should be your first priority. Stucchi is recognized for delivering a constant flow of hydraulic solutions custom designed to meet your specific requirements. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. Yes - I'd like to sign up for industry & product information related emails from Stucchi USA, Event Calendar | Blog Careers | Company PoliciesCookie Policy | Privacy | Sitemap, Stucchi is ISO9001:2015, ISO14001:2015 and OHSAS 18001:2007 Certified
Contact a hydraulic quick coupler expert like Stucchi with any questions on diagnosing or replacing leaking quick couplers. It is definetly leaking from the tractor. "url": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/graphics/smllogo.png", Often, one or the other part flies out upon disconnect. ", xZ[o:~GyQ+,t.nV"NdGwfHqQ%rHGqB[0/}BK7wF After recently re-attaching my front loader, I had a leak at one of the quick connects. I guess I have to tear it out again and replace them and try again. It is leaking at the bottom of the vertical shaft and could be that o-ring but, it was replaced when the other ones were. 2012 2720 -- 200CX Loader -- 54" Quick Attach Snow Blower -- Frontier LR5060 Rake -- Land Pride RB1660 Blade (Hydraulic Angle) -- Artillian 42" Forks -- Ken's Bolt on Grab Hooks -- Fit Rite Hydraulic top-link -- 2013 X500 for mowing duties. Likely not worn out. The technical storage or access is strictly necessary for the legitimate purpose of enabling the use of a specific service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user, or for the sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network. its nice to not have to add hydraulic fluid any more or have the leaking mess down the back end of the tractor. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. I've got a Cousin in Belfast, Ma28 for a high. Well, I went to the TSC and they didn't have the poppet style that matched, so I just bought a new set (1/2" npt) for $22, and replaced both sides. That is the usual cause of leakage- especially if the hose disconnected under pressure. It's a good idea to lube the plug, especially the first time it's installed. If exposed to hydraulic fluid in high temps or if penetration of the skin occurs, seek immediate medical attention as the results could be devastating even requiring possible amputation. I have the 4 hydraulic quick connects that operate up/down and side to side function of the blade. Bob. I have one QD that weeps. Stucchi offers hydraulic solutions for leaking skid steer couplers and many other applications. 4) Do not forget to relieve pressure its very important to depressurize the hydraulic system before inspecting connections. I wouldn't call it a real leak but there is a small drip over night after each use. I apologize if this is a commonly discussed issue - but I couldn't find it. --->Paul But a bad hose end could rough up the new o-ring in one application, is the issue. ;) For my Ford tractors, I need the Ford orings - the cheap ones from the supply store do not cut it for this application, not the right material. It includes a new 'carriage', I think it is called, maybe 'basket'- anyway- it is the metal guts of the coupler. With at least 5 JD's with multiple couplers over 30+ years, I've always used JD parts and had 1-2 remotes rebuilt- one basket and 1-2 vertical shafts- never been a serious problem. Bobcat Hydraulic Fittings Aid Snow Removal, Leak Free Skid Steer Hydraulic Quick Coupler Solutions, Skid Steer Flat Face Couplers Prepare Your Equipment for Spring, Stucchi Complete PDF Catalog Download (12.5MB), Stucchi is ISO9001:2015, ISO14001:2015 and OHSAS 18001:2007 Certified. O-rings should suffice to fix most leaks. Easy to replace in the field. But it is so small that after I wrapped a paper towel around it the towel soaked it up over and over a month's time the towel was just damp with no real indication of leak. With at least 5 JD's with multiple couplers over 30+ years, I've always used JD parts and had 1-2 remotes rebuilt- one basket and 1-2 vertical shafts- never been a serious problem. Should I be concerned? Any tips on reading that better? Parker is also a common brand. Who knows on brand. Our Saturn block features a user-friendly relief system and is a direct field replacement for skid steer couplings. I've never used anything but JD parts on the couplers, so I don't know how other supplier parts work. '80 317 w/18hp B&S and divert valve for rear hydraulics, 3 pt hitch, 5' york rake, '89 322, 54 4 way blade. As part of the leadership team he is responsible for the strategy, execution, and delivery of solutions that provide value to multiple segments of the marketplace. I had a kit ( both rings ) from local parts bloke in a sparex bag. Good thread. I believe the connectors are just prone to seepage. Anytime you do experience a leak with your Bobcat auxiliary hydraulic couplers, it is best to replace the coupler rather than attempt to rebuild it. (LogOut/ Ron, Did you use the kit from JD or used parts, or what? They make the couplers slide harder, but they work better than the cup seals on worn couplers How badly are your hose ends worn? Stucchi offers quick couplers compatible with brand names such as Bobcat, Caterpillar, John Deere, Kubota and other skid steer couplers which provide proven, long lasting performance. Often, one or the other part flies out upon disconnect. over the past winter i replaced both barrels and that seems to cure the problem. Just make sure that the couplers are free of any dirt when you snap them together. My 1538 had Stucchi couplings between the loader and chassis and the dealer used Safeway couplers at the grapple. Contact a hydraulic quick connect specialist for more tips on identifying and replacing leaking quick couplers on skid steer or any hydraulic equipment. Be sure to keep any source of flame including cigarettes, lighters, cutting or welding torches far away from any hydraulic fluid leak. All the external dimensions look the same on both. JavaScript is disabled. He has devoted 25 years to the fluid power industry in sales, management, and leadership roles within the industry. <>
5) Do not forget about flammability even a pinhole leak can create a flammable vapor. I'm afraid you're gonna be on your back in that nice "warm" Maine weather. 3) Do not forget to depressurize the system Never leave a system pressurized when inspecting the connections, even if you only see a small drip of fluid on the ground. "height": 57 I do not know if this relates to a JD, but it is my experience. No, just a small amount between the internal valves on the connectors. O-rings are susceptible to cracking which may ruin the integrity of the seal when reassembled. The back-up ring will be matched to the o-ring size. "@type": "InteractionCounter", You must log in or register to reply here. Easy to replace in the field. What thurlow said about rusty couplers is valid, as well as damage to the coupler with multiple disconnects under pressure. A third could be the plug(s) were installed without lube. I actually had a male fitting that would go into the female fitting tightly but leaked, It turned out to be the wrong part. This has been known to occur even with only 100 psi of pressure and up to four inches away from the fluid source. "headline":"JD Hydraulic outlets leaking", Come join the discussion about towing, PTOs, reviews, attachments, modifications, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! It gets to be more drippy during hard uses when the hydraulic fluid gets really hot and the viscosity decreases. EDPM is used for water service and may (??) "@type": "Person", Shop Our Wide Range Of Quick Release Couplings Online - Available In A Variety Of Sizes. I would stay with original parts before going to an off-brand. Either way the ag style should all be interchangeable- as long as the size is the same. You are using an out of date browser. <>/ExtGState<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageB/ImageC/ImageI] >>/Annots[ 26 0 R 27 0 R] /MediaBox[ 0 0 612 792] /Contents 4 0 R/Group<>/Tabs/S/StructParents 0>>
"@type":"DiscussionForumPosting", "@context":"https://schema.org", (LogOut/ You WANT/NEED Buna N/Nitrile o-rings. Just because fluid is dripping off from the coupler doesnt mean the actual leak is from that connection. Hmm, IF the couplers are JD# AM37982 or AM31273, which will also cross over to Pioner/Parker 4050-2P, o-rings are JD# 32246. Top 7 Tips for Leaking Bobcat Auxiliary Hydraulic Couplers, Forwarder2020 Utilizes Advanced Hydraulics to Protect Forests. I have a hard time seeing how much hydrolic fluid is left because it's clear. leak would stop for a short time then resume and get worse over time. "width": 200, Stucchi is a leading global supplier of hydraulic quick couplers, offering high quality products and custom designed solutions. You need to determine where the oil is leaking from. There are two things I have run across with the ports leaking. Just a pick or something similar. "text": "I have replaced the o-rings in both sets of remotes on my 2640 with aftermarket o-rings and they don't appear to leak until I hook up to a remote cylinder and turn them on. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Often, one or the other part flies out upon disconnect. Big advantage to have multiple couplers on a tractor, (I have triple remotes on three field tractors, even though only one machine needs three, while several need two) or carry a few rings in the tool box, along with a pick and WD40. There are a couple of different options available from sparex - but which one is the correct one? Thanks. Likely not worn out. Thanks, I could really use the help. Ron, Did you use the kit from JD or used parts, or what? I either have to stop the leaking or find hydraulic fluid that is high in nitrogen and leave it as is for side dressing. My newest JD is a 1983- so hydraulic couplers have never been a problem that I couldn't fix with the right JD parts. } Bob, was going to post about the need to change a coupler that got bent when strapping my 322 to a trailer. Ron, Did you use the kit from JD or used parts, or what? I disconnected it and reconnected it with no effect. If your machine has 16 hours it should not be leaking oil, it could be from a bad crimp on the hose. It will say right on the side of the coupler. The hose ends are brand new and there is no rust. We've had a bunch at our dealership where the fittings on the piece that is connected to the tractor needed to be tightened up. The clearance between male and female parts of the coupling is too great for an O-ring alone. I've never used anything but JD parts on the couplers, so I don't know how other supplier parts work. H\UyPwfnwM!T*4b
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