Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. The cyclone comes with hardware to mount the cyclone and a gasket. 6 duct collar $16 Well, that might be on me because I never cleaned it out, but when you are in the middle of a project, who wants to stop the fun part to clean out a vacuum after every few cuts? Where did you get the impeller removal tool? It just wasnt cutting it so I modified it with a larger impeller so that I could use a six inch duct. The Harbor Freight 2 HP dust collector is the heart of the project. And how many microns its good for? My requirements were ; run the ducting above the rafters, direct venting outside with no filter, as few bends as possible (thus the idea of mounting the cyclone at rafter level) and an easy way to empty the chips and dust. Clark Filter #1565938- $38 on ebay Backward inclined fans reach their peak power consumption and then power demand drops off well within their useable airflow range. *At this time I have changed the branch for the jointer, table saw, and band saw to have a single 3-way junction fitting from Rockler. This just worked out better than having 2 wyes on a drop. Fortunately I was able to extract it. The box for my Harbor Freight Dust Collector actually showed the green model. You may have to relocate the filter if you ever have an electrical inspection. If call Rikon you can order it. A 6 duct collar was then attached to the intake faceplate with rivets. I knew it was going to take a while at the computer to respond. Hello Brent. Obviously not me. There comes a time when you work on enough DIY woodworking projects that a shop vacuum just wont cut it anymore. I think its an M5x.8 (but Im just guessing). Hi Bill, Sorry for the delayed response. Mount the cyclone assembly overhead and build the chip and dust gathering box underneath. Jeff. $99 + $20 shipping. 10. The stock impeller is actually a way to inexpensively get more CFM. The closet thing I do on a regular basis that might be similar is sweep the shop and vacuum the pile. We purchased ours on Amazon but you can also pick them up at Harbor Freight, Auto Zone and OReilly. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. Brent, Im still trying to clean the dust out of my shop 2 months later. This pretty much the end of the line for this upgrade. You will notice a huge increase in suction at the tools you are using. Im beyond thrilled to be able to take on this upgrade despite the cost of entry. If you are a hobbyist and have a limited budget this is something you can do a little bit at a time. Start with just the filter canister to replace the bag. No modification just a simple replacement. That alone increases the suction. Then maybe consider the fan blower followed by the cyclone. I cant stress how important rigid duct work is to maintain air flow. Using long runs of flex hose creates a lot of drag and reduces air flow (again Im not basing this on scientific data just my own experience). http://www.titan-air.com/centrifugal-backward-inclined-or-airfoil-versus-forward-curved-design. Installation was a little tricky as the recommended puller gave me some problems but after fooling with it for a while the rest was pretty easy. Is the collection bin flat on the floor thanks. View or Download the 3D SketchUp model in the 3D Warehouse. This is amazing; just what Ive been looking for! Of course if I put in 6 and its not enough then I might be upgrading sooner rather than later :). It became clear to me that I needed to build a dust collector so I finally built one for the Gray House Studio shop by taking a Harbor Freight dust collector and upgrading it to a 2 stage cyclone dust collector. There doesnt seem to much tension on the filter when the system is on and I think it is because there is so much filter surface area for the air to pass through. It is a Rikon impeller Part #22 from their 60-200 model dust collector. In this area you can display your biographic info. 3) How heavy is the drum (approximately) when full? Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Are you the owner of the domain and want to get started? I didnt have enough ceiling height to add a collar and flex hose to the bin so I raise the bin to the fixed lid. But while tightening down the new impeller, I broke the bolt. The tool is called a Puller. My longest run is quit 25 but my thinking is the 6 is better for longer runs because the air is restricted less. With the motor and rim mounted, aligned, and connected with the 5 hose that came with the HF DC (cut it to length) you can make a pair of rings to attach the filter to the rim. Again, watch Tylers video to see what he did. Its hard to explain without seeing this. Ill say one thing I did differently was I used foam weather seal strips between the rim and the cap and rings. Once connected to the barrel lid the cyclone was attached to the inlet of the blower with 1/2 screws. I also had a few scrap pieces of plywood and I picked up 10 2x4s from the local home center. https://www.saylor.org/site/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Chapter-3.5-Fans-Blowers.pdf, Also, Backward inclined and airfoil fans remain more efficient than forward curved when the filters in a unit become dirty/clogged. Thank you very much for your post. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. Its worth noting that Rikon has increased their prices on the impeller fairly dramatically given the demand produced by the popularity of your (and presumably some others) mod! Im enlarging my shop so it will be 28 ft X 26 ft. with a table saw with 350 CFM, a bandsaw with 450 CFM, Bandsaw w/400 CFM, Drum Sander needing 600 CFM, Jointer needing 450-600 CFM. 2. My latest undertaking helped our garage look and function more like a woodworking shop. I tested it out and it was nice to have it work just how I wanted and not be near as loud as my old shop vacuum. In this tutorial we will show how we upgraded a Harbor Freight Dust Collector with the Super Dust Deputy XL from Oneida Air Systems. Thanks for your thoughts. I know this video was awhile ago, did you have any issues sliding the collar into the XL dust deputy? I found what Harbor Freight calls a super coupon in Wood magazine for the really great price on the dust collector. I would procrastinate cleaning the floor until I started a new project which meant if I ran out into the garage to get something, I most likely definitely tracked in a good amount of sawdust on my socks. Thanks for sharing the link. There is no specification name plate on the HF Dust Collector motor but there is a 14Amp sticker below the filter clamp. His site is a great resource. It was also fairly ineffective because quite often the filter on the shop vacuum got clogged because the bin filled up so fast. Would the modification improve the air flow or be just over kill? I have a basement shop so height and weight to lug the drum outside are a concern. I am working on another video to address the system for raising, lowering and moving the bin. Share it with us! The Super Dust Deputy XL cyclone is designed to mount directly to the lid of the barrel. I've been using a cyclone on my shop vac for a few years now and I've always been happy with it. The filter attached to the bracket with screws from the top. I cant wait to work on my first woodworking project with my new upgraded dust collector. I cant believe I broke a bolt with an Allen wrench. So, the larger impeller is actually less stress on the motor under the static pressure of a dust collector because of its design. While you have the cover off this is the time to cut off the 5 port and replace it with a 6 or larger collar. I chose 6 because it is easy to get 6 duct work. I used this collar. The bag will catch any particles that makes it though the blower to the filter. *Heres the outline of what I am using to Super Charge my Harbor Freight 2 HP Dust Collector (some material were already on hand): Harbor Freight 2 HP Dust Collector $220, Grizzly Growler Cyclone $317.21 (on sale), Wynn Environmental Pleated Canister Filter $270.18, Duct Work $150 (varies depending on the length of your system). Hi Felix, Thanks! If I stick with the 4 ducting as has been discussed above, would it also be a good idea to use 4 transitions on the outlet port and filter collar, to keep the airflow as consistent as possible? Im looking to do the same. However, I am concerned about the additional load to the motor. http://billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/. Thanks. I did this with the Super Dust Deputy XL Cyclone Separator. At this point I also glued some blocks on the baffle to attach it to the mid-section. I hate to spend a bunch on 5 fittings and blast gates and then still decide to upgrade my collector later *and* duct to 6. Brent, seriously like what you have done here and am thinking about applying the same mods to my HF. Basically, I have a furniture dolly with a cheap car jack. I can move it by myself. Did you salvage yours from another unit? Plus, the stock Harbor Freight impeller as a forward-inclined fans whereas the larger Rikon impeller has a backward inclined. Once particles accumulate they can be easily cleaned by emptying the bag. Did you make this project? The pile can get rather large with scrap wood, large sawdust and fine dust. Would it overload anything? Not sure I understand how it works. Ive found several articles saying that the forward curved impellers are best suited for moving large volumes of air against relatively low pressures (HVAC) but have a tendency to overload and stall under pressure. buying tools, needed exercising. I now found that the stock filter bag for these single stage collectors sucked, and not in the intended good way. The size and amount of the dust particles being forced into the air was tremendous. Im going to call it WOG, fog created by wood dust. Now, much like the mouse who was given a cookie, I NEEDED a new filter to clear the wog. Enter Wynn Environmental. Wynn offered a high quality filter for all sorts of single stage collectors that boasted up to 99.999% filtration of particles down to 0.5 microns. What does that even mean? Change). I have the SDD with the stock HF DC I am considering going to the Rikon fan, my ducting is 5 inch since that is what the SDD inlet is I made a new fan cover with a 6 inch HVAC. To start this modification, I removed the fan cover from the DC housing, and replaced the blower fan with the Rikon Blower Fan, part P20-600-22. This is as simple as removing the left hand threaded screw and washer, pulling the fan off the shaft (dont lose the key), pressing on the new fan (use a block and deadblow hammer to fully seat it), and replacing the screw and washer. You will notice the fan blades are curved in the opposite direction than the stock fan blades. Im no scientist (and this article shows no quantitative data on performance) so I dont have any experience of explanation for how or why it works better but believe me it does. I bet youll ne, #ad | We were long overdue to give our bed an upgr, Currently juggling a hundred projects right now in, Shop the products we used for this project in one place, 2hp single phase Harbor Freight dust collector, Painting a Perfect Oil-Rubbed Bronze Finish, https://www.rikonparts.com/product/60-200, http://billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/, https://damnfilters.com/products/1565932-clark-oem-replacement-dust-collector-filter, https://www.saylor.org/site/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Chapter-3.5-Fans-Blowers.pdf, http://www.titan-air.com/centrifugal-backward-inclined-or-airfoil-versus-forward-curved-design, https://www.rikontools.com/partslists/60200.pdf. Plus the air flow just wasn't there to collect from some of my larger tools efficiently. Gray House Studio does receive commissions for sales from these links but at no extra cost to you. To seamlessly connect to the Super Dust Deputy XL Im going to upgrade the impeller. The opening at the bottom of the cyclone is roughly 6, so I cut out another 6 hole with a jigsaw in the top of the barrel lid. That puts it right on the edge of what I *think* the air speed would be to hit 3500-4000 FPM, though all of it would be horizontal runs. Protect your company name, brands and ideas as domains at one of the largest domain providers in Scandinavia. Hi Matt, Im glad you brought that up. I really like your dust collector build. 6 duct transition $10. Do you just wheel it to the end of the driveway for pickup? Below is the cost breakdown of the dust collector build: The filter is 98.5% effective for .5 micron particles. FYI: This post contains a few affiliate links to products we used to make this project. 13 page PDF with Product Links and 2 Design Options, Tatami Style Platform Bed. My question is this! 4. Cherry and Bubinga $2,500, 29.5 tall Bar Stool. Do you have any specs on the filter how many sq ft of filter media? Before mounting the filter to the blower I used a jigsaw to open the closed side of the filter. Even though I've liked it, there's always those times where you start planing a bunch of boards and it gets filled up way too fast. They tend to have a 25% coupon applicable only on holidays like Christmas Day, Easter, and the Fourth of July. (LogOut/ My primary concern is the weight of the replacement impeller although Im having trouble learning the weights of the alternatives compared to the original. Like to get more cfm, but have 4 sweet pipe already throughout garage. There are a few other tools we dont leave hooked up but can hook them up when needed via blast gates. After doing some research and counting my pennies, I decided to go for the Harbor Freight dust collector and planned on modifying it into a two stage cyclone down the road. thanks!! Also, after I filmed the video I went back and made a plywood bracket to attach the middle of the cyclone to the wall. (LogOut/ Your email address will not be published. Just FYI for anyone looking to do this, the Rikon impellers are back-ordered through mid-August right now. I added 4" PVC duct pipes overhead and used 2 Harbor freight dust collector accessory kits to connect my Unisaw, radial arm saw, planer, home brewed panel saw and bead blasting cabinet. The collar seems to be a hair too big to slide on or in. HF makes 2 nearly identical dust collectors for the same price. 7. From my understanding that is the exact application of the filter I have. I was inspired to make this Thein cyclone dust collection system for my shop, from a previous post https://www.instructables.com/id/Making-a-cyclone-chip-separator-for-a-dust-collect/. The new impeller is a different design that performs better under pressure. We got distracted by all the projects for our nursery. Hi Brent, Im almost finished with the build and excited to get it going. Plus, the new impellers blades face the opposite direction so I was curious why that was and the effect it would have. Dust collector looks great. Everyone else is asking anywhere from $10-$20 plus shipping. Im not even sure what the size would be. After slowly collecting part after part for my two stage cyclone collector, I had all of the following pieces: When working on the different connections, you'll want to. Using a jigsaw and sheet metal blade the intake port was widened from 5 to 6. Turns out there are no shortage of fund projects when you have a baby. Search available domains at loopia.com , With LoopiaDNS, you will be able to manage your domains in one single place in Loopia Customer zone. If you are, I am a go. I used latex caulk to seal the dust box during assembly. Also, the filter bag that came with the Harbor Freight dust collector didnt filter out the tiniest particles. What I really like about the Super Dust Deputy XL Cyclone Separator is it separates the wood chips and the dust so only air and very fine particles pass through the blower to the filter. I was wondering how your modified D.C. System is working for you over the time you have had it put together. Then I put a bead of silicon down to seal it together. I never bought one since I did not how well it would flow. What would you estimate the total cost for this setup to be? 12. It took me nearly an entire Saturday but I finally had a two stage dust collector. I was surprised to find a brown/gray dust collector when I opened the box. My question would be the same as Bill Hoover. Hi, That is an interesting development, maybe I should reach out to them and see if they can give me a cut ;). I was curious if youve hooked up some ducting and measured the air speed at the end of your longest run yet (and if so how long it was)? The bin rolls around when the jack is lowered and once in place it easy to raise. This domain has been purchased and parked by a customer of Loopia. thanks a bunch. The 5-inch flange has been hard to get recently from Amazon so if you find that is the case and can't find a reasonably priced one elsewhere, you might go with a 4-inch or 6-inch setup. ordered Rikon impeller today. When changing the collection bin does the cyclone and lid hang from the blower motor and duct? Brad thanks for the video. Hi Steve, The bag on the bottom of the filter catches any particles that make it past the cyclone separator. Login to Loopia Customer zone and actualize your plan. Harbor Freight Dust Collector $135 A few questions: 1) Whats the total height with the 55 gal drum? I recently refurbished a bedroom in my house and the job required me to plane a number of MDF 1x4s. I also added a hinged trap door at the bottom. I am still looking to buy a planer and wish I had one to test. The Rikon literature shows a 16 Amp rating on their DC which, other than the 12 inch diameter fan and possibly the motor, appears identical to the HF dust collector. I wonder if you had looked into any other replacement impellers, specifically JET. Where you still in tolerance for safe operation? https://www.rikonparts.com/product/60-200, Looks good! Great build! After mounting the blower on the 24 bracket the outlet port was converted to a 6 outlet by attaching a duct transition with 1/2 sheet metal screws
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