Then pulled off putty in sequence to see what connection generated air in the system. *FREE, next-day delivery on most orders to most areas. Then check the impeller shaft and seal plate for any wear that would offset your shaft seal. Posted: 8/10/2012, For a quick introduction, this picture shows the operation of the impeller. Give us a call and we will line you up with a technician at the pump manufacturer. Is it necessary to pry the motor away? Posted: 4/28/2016, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R.
To avoid a possible shock, lay a screwdriver across the two leads to short out the capacitor. Something went wrong. Posted: 6/1/2013, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R.
My pump will not prime. Replace cover and secure with two screws. You may have to use a strap wrench to gently free up the impeller. I replaced the motor last year. The location of the pool pump impeller is shown in this cut-away of a pump. Note: You may have to also have to remove the metal collar if the new shaft seal also has one. Posted: 5/26/2014, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R.
If something is jammed inside, you may have another issue. So, if you purchased a 1 HP full rate impeller but installed a 1 HP uprate motor, your motor has a max total HP output of 1.25, and the impeller is a total HP of 1.65. Thank you! Posted: 2/20/2017, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R.
But if you broke any part of your impeller, you should replace it. I was wondering if the impellar could have degraded due the materials that flow through it? No need to disconnect the capacitor from its leads. Posted: 4/22/2022, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R.
I have learned a lot from your page. Posted: 6/2/2016, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R.
How would touching the ceramic bearing surfaces corrode them? Do I have to order the whole diffuser, or can I just order the gasket? For an expanded explanation of how a pump operates click. I have a filter that is a little larger and it works better. Posted: 6/3/2016, Concretedad
Hold all of the hoses under water. I have watched your excellent video but cannot get the seal on the impeller. medic 1655 - I have no idea what your three metal gaskets are either?? Experiencing low pump pressure. Your pump should maintain prime. I would guess this is a filter issue. Posted: 5/24/2014, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R.
Next you will have to relieve the pressure that builds up in the pump during operation. Thank you for the GREAT information and video. Prime pump by removing strainer lid and filling strainer with water. Put a thin coat of lubrication on the gasket. Inspect the diffuser gasket for wear. To extract the motor pump assembly from the pump housing, first remove the four 9/16" bolts that bind the motor pump assembly to the housing. Try hitting around the joint with a rubber hammer. endstream
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Removed basket and found impeller bolt laying on bottom. Hooked up my new pump with new impeller, gaskets, etc. Push the half of the seal that you just removed onto the new impeller. If the diffuser came out with the assembly, pull the diffuser off the assembly. Save $10 on your first order! It is possible to place this seal upside down. The impeller was on very tightly and in the process of trying to get it off, a part of the outer edge snapped off. Please refine your selection. Posted: 8/4/2014, Ken
Then from the impeller side, rotate the impeller COUNTER-CLOCKWISE to screw it off the shaft. Make a note of how the seal is positioned on the impeller so you know how to place the new seal. Take off the two screws that hold the back cover onto the assembly. Water will spray out initally as you see the pressure on the pressure gauge go to 0 psi. Capacitors store power. If bolts were numbered 1 though 4, replace bolts in this sequence - 1, 3, 2, 4 - to ensure that the motor is set properly inside the housing. 256 0 obj
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TY. It ran great for a few minutes then began to cycle on and off. Make sure the new seal on in the same position noted above. Sometimes debris will get into the pump and will crack the impeller. Best of all, you'll receive a $10 off coupon for use towards your first order of $149+! Due to possible hand injury, I dont think anyone would recommend trying this procedure. Again your pump should maintain prime. I purchased a new above ground pool with a 1 1/2 HP 2Sp pump, last year. It's happened to every pool tech who has been working for a while. Enable JavaScript by changing your browser options, and then try again. It is just like any other profession; we can make mistakes. Seller assumes all responsibility for this listing. Purchased new lid and and gasket and replaced them. And if your impeller was clogged, you would not have good flow initially. My pump ran dry due to my pool running low on water and now it has very low pressure, will replacing the impeller be the fix I need to regain the pressure I need to filter the water? {"modules":["unloadOptimization","bandwidthDetection"],"unloadOptimization":{"browsers":{"Firefox":true,"Chrome":true}},"bandwidthDetection":{"url":"https://ir.ebaystatic.com/cr/v/c1/thirtysevens.jpg","maxViews":4,"imgSize":37,"expiry":300000,"timeout":250}}. I have a call into the motor rep. Grab the seal on the impeller and twist it off. Posted: 6/10/2013, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R.
Try disconnecting all hoses except the one coming out of the skimmer. If there are any cracks or pieces broken off on the impeller, it needs to be replaced. You may be trying to force the new collar over the old one. Pentair should be able to advise on the actual torque. The first step in preparing to remove your pump's impeller is to turn off all power to the motor. DO NOT touch the bearing (top) surface of the seal. Copyright 2022 INYOpools All rights reserved. Posted: 4/29/2016, danny
Check your incoming voltage. Pump sounded like it wasnt generating all the power it normally does (Pentair Superflo VS). Replace lid. When he responds, I will get back with you. I'm looking at part 5110-82. Posted: 5/10/2013, Anonymous
Separated pump and reinstalled impeller bolt. Check hose connections then take out one hose at a time to try to isolate the leak. Ken - According to the pump manufacturers, if the oil on your fingertips gets on the ceramic bearing surfaces of the shaft seal, it will cause the surfaces to burn and deteriorate during operation. Posted: 8/11/2014, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R.
Note: Some Hayward pumps have six bolts. The nick itself would not cause an air leak, but it does indicate that the inside of the pump had some problem like a stone or acorn. %%EOF
Also, you might want to specify what type of lube to use on that gasket (silicon, I believe would work). Does the shaft rotate when you move the impeller?. Posted: 8/27/2012, kfcrandy
Talk to a local hardware store about your options or you may be at the point of buying a whole new pump. With the impeller off you will see the motor shaft seal. Then rotate the impeller. When turnin the pump on, the motor runs at a slow speed for the first 20 seconds, then it shuts down completely. This guide explains how to replace a bad pool pump impeller.Please click here to view pump impellers, Claudia L. Duncan
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Motors and impellers have two total horsepower scales, uprate and full rate. You may have 115V at the breaker box and your pump may be set up for 230V. One bolt just keeps spinning and is not losing up. Try putting some pressure under the head of the bolt with a flat screwdriver as you are turning the bolt. Any suggestions? I ended up with 3 metal gaskets that I don't know where they belong and cannot find them on the schematic and still have no prime. Then check that the impeller is sound (is not cracked or wobbles) and not clogged. Great article and many thanks for the closeups. This item has been successfully added to your list. Interac Logo Trademark of Interac Inc, Used under Licence. I drained for the winter. There is also a loud noise coming from the motor. I do not believe it is the filters one is 6 months old and it does the same thing. kfcrandy - The impeller is not your problem unless it is clogged. See our guide on cleaning out an impeller Also if you have low pressure, you may have developed a suction leak in your pump or in the piping coming into your pump. Subscribe >, Click here first to search our How To Guides, Shop Children's STEM Toys at JR Toy Company. Customer Service & Phone Hours of Operation, For Models: SP2600X5, SP2605X7, SP2607X10, SP2607EE(2S), SP2610X15(2S), SP2615X20(2S), SP2621X25. Request, California To gain access to the end of the motor shaft you will have to remove the capacitor. Posted: 4/23/2013, ds1
Now add the cleaner and let the hoses float to the top.
I would pull out the motor and check it. Posted: 2/26/2017, wayneb56
stuck motor - Most pumps come apart easily. The seal looks different than the one I took off. hbbd```b``")"""M DjEH ~XD2I`x)%| $m{L@m& /m
I ordered and received a Hayward 1 1/2 hp motor and shaft seal for a Hayward pump Model number SP 2810X15. It can corrode the surface. I was wondering if the pump could be losing flow when the back pressure in the filter starts to increase due to problem with the impeller. Hand tight is sufficient. I have a Purex 2hp Whisperflow pump. Susan - If your diffuser is not damaged, you only need to buy the diffuser gasket, called the. instructions for how to enable JavaScript in your web browser, Please click here to view our How A Pool Pump Works HTG, Please click here to view our How ToRemove Stubborn Pool Pump Impellers Blog, Please click here to view our How To Replace a Motor Shaft Seal Guide, Please clickhere to our main pump parts page, Please click here to view O Ring Lubricant. Try prying the motor out gently. The pump doesn't seam to have the suction power when the vacuum is connected. If you have an old pump and it hasn't been pulled for a while, it may be corroded shut a little. Posted: 4/22/2022, Claudia L. Duncan
After reinstalling hoses and pipes, there is a leak between the motor and impeller. impeller - I don't know why the impeller is able to spin both ways when you are holding the shaft and keeping it from rotating. Place a 7/16" wrench on the flat end of the motor shaft to secure the shaft from rotating. Posted: 6/2/2013, dlc
However, the impeller cannot be freed from the motor shaft without first securing the motor shaft. Also, the motor cycling on and off could be a sign it is overworking itself; its overheating cuts out, cools off, restarts, and then shuts down when it starts to overheat. This slot is often accessable by simply taking off the end cap of the motor. ;z7Y~\,z The torque will be more than adequate to overcome the seal drag at the lowest speed setting, with acceptable operating voltage. Print & Catalog Icons, Replacement 1-1/2 Hp Impeller For The Hayward Super Pump High Performance Pool Pumps, Also Fits Hayward Super Ii Pumps Pre 1987 And Maxflo Pumps And Power Flo Ii Pumps, Impeller Has Threaded Brass Connect To Motor Shaft, Faster service: Remove 4-bolts to access impeller. PhiWc|R!Yg(+{=8p%PB|[o{+`seCoaR*K W/^V'LJ!YerqSdg3E$[]NNJY6l}Zeh;krzvf]NWb^s=Ll5r?/|jO?l5V'hR)T. Most people replace the motor when the bearings go but they can also be replaced with the right tooling. Posted: 8/11/2014, Susan
If the bolt or socket is stripped, you may have a problem getting it to hold when you reassemble your pump. Also if the threads are worn causing the impeller to wobble on the shaft, replace it. Question - should I be able to keep motor from spinning simply by holding onto impeller when i turn it on? Copyright 1995-2022 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. A 1HP and 1.5HP impeller look very similar, and if you're not careful, you could pick up the wrong part. *Free shipping valid in Canada Only; Remote areas do not qualify for free shipping. h;r7O0?\%[$>>[p)IIfg/tcRR]I@j*YXxVMRSWR+t6N4QFUqPJ;CO?}E.;|/O^5c!mrW*vv'g. Join our promotional newsletter and be first to know about upcoming sales, special offers and other promotions - no spam, we promise. My question is how best do I separate my old leaking shaft seal (and impeller) from its metal bracket/motor mount. Try soaking your filter with a TSP solution to help clean out the fine residue in the creases of the filter. didn't try to force it. Posted: 1/4/2013, mckyd68
However, it seems JavaScript is either disabled or not supported by your browser. Posted: 5/27/2014, HygienePool
Also, check step 15 of this guide to make sure that the shaft seal isn't mounted upside down. But I wouldn't rule out mismatched impeller and motor. I'm ordering parts to replace an impeller on its way out for a Hayward Max Flo II, I'm not sure which diffuser gasket to order. Add the rest of your hoses without attaching the cleaner. In other cases the threads that hold the impeller to the motor shaft become worn causing the impeller to wobble and rub against the diffuser. wayneb56 - I wouldn't think you could prevent a motor from spinning by holding the impeller. Posted: 1/3/2013, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R.
The spinning action of the impeller when driven by the pump motor generates the water pressure in your pool system. Note: Securing the motor shaft on other non-Hayward type pumps varies. If you do not see the diffuser or its gasket, check inside the housing. the flow starts slowing down about 2 hours after the pump is restarted. If you lose prime now, you have a leak in one of the hoses. And it pretty much looked like the parts I was replacing. JavaScript must be enabled in order for you to uses this site. How could I do this correctly? 2009 - 2022 Pool Supplies Canada. Close the relief valve on top of the filter, after the air is purged and water starts to spray out of the valve. If you have not replaced the motor shaft seal and the pump is several years old, this may be a good time to replace this seal. Some pumps provide a slot on the end of the shaft to secure with a screwdriver. Replace if required. Replace the capacitor on the backside of the assembly. After the assembly is out, you should see the diffuser and diffuser gasket on the end of the assembly. Request, Fine Print https://hdsupplysolutions.com/ProductDisplay?urlRequestType=Base&catalogId=10054&categoryId=22355&productId=1453348&urlLangId=-1&langId=-1&top_category=&parent_category_rn=&storeId=10051. I have all new seals ready to go and I've removed the impeller and pump from the dead motor, now I want to ensure I separate these two parts without damaging either. wayneb56 - Here was the response from the Century motor rep. "On a question like this, you really need to know the whole story. For instructions on replacing this seal click. Posted: 12/21/2014, Pickles
mckyd68 - Sounds like the bolt is stripped. Check the pump body for possible cracks. Concretedad - First check to make sure you bought the right replacement shaft seal. endstream
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Posted: 4/6/2015, Anonymous
Any suggestions? Pulled out pump and noticed a nick in one of the impeller bladed. Make sure the plastic strip is in place between the clip and capacitor so that the capacitor does not short out. Posted: 5/26/2015, Jerry
To remove the impeller you will twist the impeller off in a counter clockwise motion. Posted: 4/21/2022, InyoPools Product Specialist Matt S.
View cart for details. ds1 - If you have a leak between the impeller and motor, you probably have a bad motor shaft seal. hb```b``c`e`leb@ !0fT,xGGGCZ#Q(f`ddAa;:XXTX8,YI |du700_e ;;.#@ >+
Replaced my shaft seal but now when I start the pump it tightens up so much on the impeller it locks up. Several people have written in saying that the new seal won't fit because they were trying to place the new collar on top of the old one. At the impeller end, twist off the impeller counterclockwise. Water enters the center of the impeller. When you hold the other end of the shaft, it should not be able to move. Thanks for the response. Posted: 8/10/2012, Anonymous
HygienePool - That's a long time for an impeller. Posted: 6/11/2013, Smitty
Posted: 2/27/2017, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R.
Hello there! Posted: 5/25/2014, medic1655
We dont build the motor, but I believe it is a three phase, induction motor. Posted: 8/2/2014, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R.
the indents (I guess keeps the seal from spinning) are up towards the ceramic seal and it seems I would have to force the seal passed the lower metal to get to the indents? Have a new housing gasket ready if you have to put this together right away. The maximum number of products that can be compared is 4. Unbolted the motor to check the impeller for trash but couldn't pull it apart. If pump has 6 bolts, replace bolts in this sequence - 1, 3, 5, 2, 4, 6. I need to call an electrician---. Posted: 12/18/2014, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R.
First, I'd check to ensure your wiring and voltage settings are correct. I used the parts sold to me by the pool store--I brought the new pump in to show them, so I assume they gave me the right stuff. Posted: 8/25/2012, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R.
As the impeller is spun by the motor, a series of blades, like a fan, pushes the water to the outside edges of the impeller where it exits through slots to be collected by the diffuser. I am trying to remove the motor on my Hayward Super pump. Suggested site content and search history menu, Armstrong 1/25 HP Astro 230SS Circulator Pump, Armstrong 1/6 HP H-32 Circulator Pump, 1/6 HP, Single Phase, 115 Volt, Volute, Armstrong Nonferrous Impeller For H-32 And S-35, Armstrong 1/4 HP S-45 Circulator Pump Less Volute With Viton Seal, Armstrong 4-Spring Cast Iron Pump Coupler, Fits S-25, S-35, H-32 And H-41 Pumps, Carrier SmartComfort Heat Pump Reversing Valve For 1.5 And 2.0 Ton Heat Pumps, Account Change Pull the assembly apart from the housing. Again DO NOT touch the bearing surface of the seal. It sounds like the old metal collar did not come off with the old shaft seal. Please remove them. If the motor shaft does not rotate freely, the bearings are probably bad. I believe it is about 16 years old. dlc - If your motor is not making excessive noise, it and the impeller are probably not the problem. They have to generate pretty good torque to move the water. You will see the motor wiring and capacitor. Move to the other end of the motor shaft in the back of the motor assembly. To relieve pressure turn the relief valve on top of the filter counter clockwise. Posted: 4/5/2015, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R.
All Prices in Canadian Dollars. Pickles - I am not familiar with this pump but going to a hammer sounds a little extreme and you may end up damaging the pump. Any idea what could cause this? If your haven't replaced your motor shaft seal and gaskets, I would also do that. If you believe it is a wiring problem, I'd call an electrician. Loosely tighten bolts in this sequence, then go back and tighten them down again in this sequence. Must be taking on air somewhere. Finally make sure that your skimmer and strainer baskets are clean. One owner temporarily packed plumber's putty around each connection to see if that stopped a leak. One half on the impeller and the other half in the seal plate on the shaft. Recheck the cover lid and O-ring to make sure it is set correctly. Click OK to extend your time for an additional 0 minutes. Unscrew the single screw that hold the capacitor in place and push it out of the way. What could the problem be? If you used chemicals to clear your water, these chemicals may be clogging your filter. %PDF-1.7
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If the electrician finds no wiring issues, you need to open the pump to check the part numbers. Do you think it's a bad bearing or a pump seal? Leave feedback about your eBay ViewItem experience, Hayward SPX3026C 3-Horsepower Impeller Replacement for Hayward Super II Pump, - eBay Money Back Guarantee - opens in a new window or tab, - for PayPal Credit, opens in a new window or tab, - eBay Return policy - opens in a new tab or window, - eBay Money Back Guarantee - opens in a new tab or window. Click here first to search our How To Guides for answers to the most frequently asked questions regarding pool kits, pool equipment and more! It should snap off easily and expose the impeller. The torque will vary, depending upon the speed selected. danny - Look at Step 15 of this guide. If you water was dirty and you ran that water through the filter, the filter may need to be cleaned several times to clear the fine debris out of the filter. Snap on the diffuser - no screws are required. Slip the motor assembly back into the housing. One or more part # you entered is invalid. Any advice? For maximum safety turn off the power at the circuit breaker to the motor - usually located next to the timer box. Posted: 5/9/2013, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R.
The repair kit for that pump is ", I lost prime on my Hayward Northstar pump. & Catalog Icons, Account Change Make sure that hose is completely under water. Impeller moves easy, motor runs quite. Keep track of the washers. I think it's a wiring/voltage problem, beyond the pump. Jerry - If the nick is substantial, I would replace the impeller so it is sound and balanced. If that checks out, I'd confirm the motor and impeller you are using are matched correctly. Ensure that the part of the diffuser labeled "TOP" is aligned with the "TOP" labeled on the seal plate.
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