The UP OCTAVE signal is one octave above the original input signal or twice the frequency of the original input signal. I used KiCAD Ver.5.19. Thankfully the Micro POG is still able to provide the same flawless tracking and smooth polyphony of its predecessor, which makes it an easy contender for one of the best bass octave pedals out there right now. OCT (-2 Octave Level): This functions as a OCT2 knob when the MODE knob is set to OCT2. Is there a smaller alternative to the Boss OC-2? TalkBass utilizes technology from Skimlinks that may give us a small affiliate commission on purchases made via links on our site. If you want to make it in the same way, please refer to the figure below. When I analyzed the operation of the circuit myself, I was impressed by the ingenuity of producing a stable sound one octave lower with only the analog circuit. Inside of the beautifully finished gold octaver (battery snap removed). If you want to hear just the octave, then set the DIRECT LEVEL knob all the way down. ), but this color selection seems to affect the delivery date. This is still cheap enough. Please refer to it. The same phrase will be played three times. Please read the terms of use and disclaimer in the attached "readme.pdf" before using this data. I would get a different model before I bought the OC3. What I felt after making the octaver. The synthesised signal is derived from the original input signal by having its frequency halved (octave-down) or doubled (octave-up). Additionally, we will also be providing our number 1 pick for the best bass octave pedal out there right now! (You must log in or sign up to reply here.). For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I find this pedal to be extremely fun to experiment with. We hope you have found this list informative, and have gained some knowledge into the best octave pedals that are available for your bass guitar right now. No noise occured when the board was upright in the enclosure. Your purchases help youth music programs get the gear they need to make music. I'm hoping it will give me the same vibe with slightly better tracking. Its really easy to adjust the units control knobs make your bass guitar emulate an organ, and also some other truly unique sounds found only with the Micro POG. The effect extends into higher frequencies as the knob is turned to the right; turning the knob to the left limits the effect to lower frequencies. The volume of the UP OCTAVE signal will increase as this knob is rotated clockwise. The Gear Page is the leading online community and marketplace for guitars, amps, pedals, effects and associated gear. Controls the volume of the guitars signal. All processes of PCB design can be done with the freeware "KiCAD". Re: Is there a smaller alternative to the Boss OC-2. We use cookies on our websites for a number of purposes, including analytics and performance, functionality and advertising. By clicking Subscribe, I agree to receive exclusive offers & promotions, news & reviews, and personalized tips for buying and selling on Reverb. This is clearly different from the digital pitch shifter. Up until recently all octave pedals were analog, but due to advancements in technology we now have access to digital ones. The OC-2 reproduces 3 separate tones: the original tone, one octave below, and 2 octaves below. battery), and not only works with bass guitar, butelectric guitar too. Aguilar Octamizer? The pedal can only handle 2 to 3 notes being played at the same time, or it causes the octave sounds to shift out of tune. You may decide to add a shield sheet after checking the noise level with mounting in the enclosure. the TC Electronic Sub and Up? document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Tone Start is a website dedicated to providing in-depth reviews on music-related products for musicians all around the world! Main components CMOS CD4013, CD4027, rare operational amplifier LM324. "2SC1815" can also be used. The glitches and the tone are a hallmark of the genre (check out John Davis from Nerve, or Janek Gwizdala). At this time, the actual circuit is devised so that a stable pitch waveform (square wave) can be obtained by applying a peak hold circuit. When the SUB switch is set to OFF, only the High Filter is active. I guess it's because there is a delay in the octave sound. The standard Boss layout of the OC-3 gives you access to four different tone knobs, which we have detailed below for you to become familiar with:. I want to say the Akai Unibass does something like that, but I could be making that up. The manufacturing fee is only $ 5, but the shipping fee by DHL is $ 20, so the total is $ 25. The OC-3 weighs in at a mere 440g (incl. This fun work was completed in about two hours. The BOSS OC-3, which I've been using for a while, also supports polyphonic code with digital processing. Switches the Bass Filter in and out. Just wondering if theres anything out there that's as good as, or better than, the OC-2. Good Deal List: bearbeams, pena_55, sonidero, greyscales, ChetMagongalo, xchristophex, Monkey Boy, krautrocker, osbornkt. Therefore, it is necessary to replace this flip-flop with another CMOS IC. The dimensions of the unit come in at 73 (W) x 129 (D) x 59 (H) mm. Through extensive research and vigorous testing, we provide you with everything you need to know about each of the products we look at. They definitely don't sound the same. Although, this comes at a small cost. The JK flip-flop CD4027 is used as an alternative to the BA634. Items must be returned in original, as-shipped condition with all original packaging.Learn More. This is also not manufactured and difficult to obtain, but I was lucky enough to buy it. There are three different control knobs associated with the Pure Octave pedal. Two CMOS flip-flops are used. Thank you for your support! Oops, looks like you forgot something. Any reason why not to just get the OC-2? Add some low to mid mids, cut the top end and adjust the low end to suit, and you have an OC-2. Find an article about your favorite effect pedal. "reportSuiteIds": "", Changes depending on the mode set by the MODE knob. When I made the board and checked the operation, I discovered that the circuit that I referred to contained two mistakes. Read more. For shielding, I put it under the CMOS chip and the operational amplifier LM324. After positioning, the holes were expanded in the order of 1.5mm, 3mm, and 6mm, and then expanded to the hole diameter of each part using a taper reamer. If you take a listen you can hear it being used by The White Stripes in many different instances on their albums. Apparently, the pitch signal (square wave) divided by CMOS was added on the direct sound. Also, I tried to add a 330p capacitor to the pitch signal output from CMOS to remove the sharp edge of waveform. RANGE: This functions as a RANGE knob when the MODE knob is set to POLY. Let us know what you think in the comments below! That's all that I can think of in that style/price bracket. If you can't get it, "2SK2880" can be used instead. Furthermore, Boss have also gone and included their original OC-2 mode found on their previous model, which is a great feature to keep on the OC-3., It should be noted that the OC-3 only produces notes that one or two octaves down from your original sound, and not up. The PCB data created using "KiCad (Windows 64-bit) Version: (6.0.4), release build" is provided. The principle of the analog octaver is like a Hammond organ that makes a sound by turning a gear (called a tone wheel). I don't use the uncool LED holder. When ordering with FusionPCB, you can select the resist color (green, red, blue, etc. I housed this ovtaver in a gold-painted enclosure of HAMONND's "1590N1". Adjusts a filter that will shape the tone of the suboctaves higher order harmonics. It was slightly effective, but it did not change much. The sub-octave can be crafted to sound like a massive dub bass line, or fine-tuned to fatten up your riffs or solos. You must log in or register to reply here. There are many books on CAD and board design methods, so you can refer to them and make your own. OCT2 (OC-2 Compatible): In addition to providing sounds one octave below the original input, this also allows you to output sounds lowered by two octaves. We will be checking out the best and most talked-about bass octave pedals, and give you some insight on what to expect from each of them. I tried to make an analog octaver and realized the charm of analog sound. From my understanding, the OC-3 models the OC-2 but as it's a digital instead of analog pedal like the OC-2, they won't sound exactly the same. I cut a thin transparent plastic sheet into the shape of a board, and attached the aluminum foil tape (double-sided conductive) that I used to make the Stratocaster's pickguard shield. In the first place, if you just want to add the sound one octave lower, I think that the pitch shifter that changes the pitch digitally is more stable. I tested the OC-2 and Octron side by side. This adjusts the level of the sound two octaves below the original. It can be created only with the parts library provided by default. This time, I actually made it using the circuit of OC-2. Bass octave pedals are octavers that are able to generate a tone that is one octave below the note you are playing. I believe they're all gone now unless you find one used. OC2 if you can find one. In addition, "2SK30A-Y" is used for FET. Do you agree with our top pick? The OC-3 sounds pretty much the same as the OC-3 to be honest. It allows you to produce some really awesome sounds. "ATGID": "", You can see articles on how I made them for each board type (universal board, through hole / surface mount printed board) and enclosure size (normal, mini). These are labelled DRY, SUB, and UPPER. The Pog, and the Sub & Up are both digital. Clean sub with fuzz upper would be so sweet. Also on the high end side of things there are still some B-Stock Mu-FX Octave Dividers, but they are pretty pricey. No, the OC-3 is not an option. This is a list page of the effect pedals that I made. The volume of the sound two octaves down increases as the knob is turned to the right. In addition, the position of the switch was decided so that the battery space could be taken. If I were playing an electronic band I would go for the OC2. With the OC-3 you also have the ability to add distortion to your octave notes using the pedals new drive mode. Your purchases also help protect forests, including trees traditionally used to make instruments. This time, I designed the printed circuit board by myself as well as the previous analog delay self-made (DM-3 MOD). There is no adjustment on this board. The Octron octave is EQd a little different. The OC-3 definitely set the benchmark for other octave pedals when it was first released. Circuits and key components I am a self-made nerd. It also features true bypass, so you can be sure that your original tone will remain untouched. The unit features two separate 1/4 jack inputs for each of these instruments which are labelled as GUITAR IN and BASS IN. I wouldnt say bass octave pedals are completely necessary for you to keep in your effects chain, but they are still a great tool to have to make you stand out from the crowd. The first is OFF (clean), the middle is the sound that OCT1 is added, and the last is the sound both OCT1 and OCT2 are added. Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by drumvsbass, May 3, 2018. Controls the output volume of the OCTAVE UP signal. Controls the volume of the first octave. What nails the OC-2 synth sound without the negatives? Turning the BASS FILTER knob counter-clockwise will make the sub-octave sound deeper and bassier.PLEASE NOTE: the BASS FILTER knob is only active when the SUB switch isset to ON. DRIVE: Adds distortion to the direct sound and octave sound. Mooer, Donner, whomthefuckever, all they cats building in those dollhouse sized enclosures. yeah, mooer makes a pure octave, more options than the OC2 but it's pretty dern good sounding. The main parts CD4013 and CD4027 are available everywhere. When you think of a standard octave pedal something like the Boss OC-2 might come to mind. These digital pedals have several advantages, such as being able to track the notes you play more efficiently. As mentioned previously, bass octave pedals are used to create a sound that is an octave above or below whatever youre playing. Around the frequency divider circuit that creates the pitch signal. The board design was done using the freeware "KiCAD" for all processes. Why do so few bassists talk about the EHX Octave Multiplexor as that synthy womp sound? JavaScript is disabled. I've learned the real key to the OC-2 sound is EQ. Operation check and noise suppression DRIVE: This functions as a DRIVE knob when the MODE knob is set to DRIVE. I was at a loss for a while, but suddenly I noticed that there was no noise when I tried playing guitar with the board upright in the enclosure. The unit is built to the exact same standards of durability weve seen out of every other Boss pedal. It should be mentioned that the Octave Multiplexer is a monophonic device, which means that you should stick to only playing single notes at once when using it. One is the CD4013, which can be obtained anywhere. I plan on building a Parasitstudios U-235 suboctave this weekend. EBS octave pedal? I call it "Gold Octaver". The Boss has a deeper tone and sounds more like a video game and the Octron has more mid range. Provides both -1 and -2 octaves down with a clean blend. If you don't wanna buy used or can't find a reasonable price for the oc2 the mxr vintage octave nails the sound for sure. Sound sample Board design requires some experience (I worked for an electronics design company about 25 years ago). You won't believe the thickness of the sounds from your guitar. At the top of our list sits the Boss OC-3 Dual Super Octave Pedal, which Im sure this doesnt come as much of a surprise to any experienced octave users out there. The octave sound comes out as expected, but the direct sound (original sound) has a little jarring noise. As this knob is rotated clockwise, the volume of the SUB OCTAVE signal will increase. This is the one that is 1 octave below your original sound. This adjusts the range in which the octave effect is applied. Therefore, I made a shield plate using aluminum foil tape. Counter-clockwise is 100% dry. It looks like that piece of gear is gone. When I was browsing the internet, there was a person who made OC-2 experimentally. Even though I already have an OC-3, I tried to make an analog version. The sound created by the Octave Multiplexer has been around since the seventies, and allows you to produce a variety of warm analog tones that are one octave below your input signal. The Electro Harmonix Micro Pog? Earthquaker Bit Commander? It sounds thicker than the OC-3 (digital version) I've been using. I shortened the length of PCB while placing the parts, and finally it was 90 mm. These pitch signals and the input tones half-wave rectified by the germanium diode are multiplied by the op amp's circuit. As a result, the half-wave rectified tone is inverted every other wave and converted into a signal with twice the wavelength. Recording environment: Gibson Les Paul (front PU)-> Self-made octaver-> ZOOM G3X (Fender Twin Reverb amp simulator clean)-> UR22mkII-> DAW (Studio One). I put the purchased parts on the PCB. Octave pedals dont instantly give you a great sound, they take some time to configure properly. They are all unique and wonderful and worth a listen. As mentioned previously, the Micro POG is a miniaturised version of the original. This is DSP processed and cannot be made by myself. They are one of the more popular octave pedals owned and used by musicians over the years. This is an IC with one circuit of ordinary flip-flops and not generally available. I fixed it by cutting the trace on the printed circuit board and reconnecting it. Funnily enough, this was the first pedal of its kind to allow this to occur. As this knob is turned clockwise, the volume of the DRY signal will increase. I made a 3mm hole and pushed the LED from the inside and fixed it with super glue. Which Boss Octaver would you prefer? We hope the information we provide can help you in deciding which products are the best fit for your needs. OC3 is cheaper and easier to find. A solid budget alternative to the OC-2, and made in Japan too! Oc2 for sure if youre looking the classic sound, oc3 if you are looking for polyphonic capabilities, the drive function, or the sub out option, but the sound is a little different if youre looking for the classic. The unit is incredibly small, sizing in at only 42 (W) x 93.55 (D) x 52 (H) mm, and weighing a mere 160g. What these octave pedals do exactly is they mix the input signal of your bass with a synthesised signal whose tone is lowered or raised an octave higher than the original. The schematic of BOSS OC-2 can be found in the service manual for repairs. The MXR M288 is a dual-voice octave pedal that offers a variety of options including: true bypass, analog tone, and multiple ways to shape your tone. The enclosure was processed using a hand drill. Gold Supporters see zero ads! The Micro POG (Polyphonic Octave Generator) is an ingenious piece of equipment that takes everything you loved about the original POG released in 2005, and places it in a more simplistic and miniaturised form. The oc3 has more mid presence,iirc. The original POG has been incredibly successful over the years, and has been used on many different recordings. Ive had the OC-3, it doesnt sound nearly as good as the OC-2 IMO. MXR bass octave M288 is pretty close to OC-2. Turning the SUB switch on gives the sub-octave a deeper, bassier sound. Turning the HIGH FILTER knob clockwise will make the sub-octave sound more gnarly and fuzzy. Once I chose "red" when creating an analog delay, the delivery time was longer, 12 business days from ordering to completion of production. Please check the fields highlighted in red. My first EHX pedal broke within 3 months of buying it new. For Sale: Bass Guitar Strings and Accessories, The TB Bazaar: Gear For Sale from our Sponsors, For Sale: Double Bass Amps, Strings & Accessories, Wanted: Bass Guitars, Amps, and Accessories, Wanted: Double Basses, Amps & Accessories.

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