The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network, The 1960 - 1966 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board, http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/sd.php?t=366850, http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/sd.php?t=369663, http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/sd.php?t=498241, http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/sd.php?t=424381. JavaScript is disabled. Click below to see more ways to filter your search. 5.5"-6", and with a 28" tall tire would be appx. Once again the manila file folder template was used to locate the mounting holes for the idler arm. It actually worked very well with the stock suspension. I've marked up the following photo to show which holes were added or elongated. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. anyone ever just cut the frame and weld the new one in like the camero clip swap? The 1960 configuration of the idler arm is very visible in this shot, as compared to the newer design shown below. They needed to be moved to the rear at more of an angle. Other Car & Truck Transmission & Drivetrain, - eBay Money Back Guarantee - opens in a new window or tab. Again the manila templates were used to confirm location. Can someone post the link on the 1960 crossmember swap to a 1973-87 also 350 v-8 mount pics. The holes for the brake hoses were the first step of the conversion, and took several hours to cut. I had previously installed power steering using the REZ Engineering kit which is designed for the 63 up frame. The older frames are shorter in height than the '73-'87 C10 frames. Portions of the information contained in this table have been provided by flashemotor. c10 chevy crossmember transmission 1963 swap ls c1500 1987 c15 gmc drop lowering The crossmember was then removed for drilling the frame. It turned out the original brackets had two holes drilled in them, as if the factory originally intended to bolt them on. This photo shows the passenger side of the stock suspension before any changes. Do you use the original holes in the crossmember and mount? swap headers ls conversion c10 ls6 ls1 ls2 ls3 1960 trucks hugger horns ram universal Try that and see if any holes line up. 1961 mounts As can be seen, the swap was completed with the engine still in place. However you will need to add a spacer to the top of the frame where the top of the motor mount bracket will attach to the frame. I know that on the crossmember conversion on the '60-'62 there are only a couple holes that line up. They've been on over 10 years and the bolts have worked fine. Seller assumes all responsibility for this listing. The long beds are 127" and the short beds are 115". There are other ways to attach the hoses but I wanted everything to fit like it did in the 75. I made the hex portion with a small triangle file and a lot of patience until the hose end fit. I believe one was underneath and the other was the upper rear which needed to be. As interest in its product grew, The Choppin Block Fab changed its name to CB Chassis Products. I've marked up the following photo to show which holes were added or elongated. I simply used these holes and attached the brackets with grade 8 bolts. Oops. (CPP now offers an adapter kit designed specifically for the 60-62). The C10 Community spoke and The Choppin' Block listened innovating a new kit superior to all others while keeping install easy for everyone. c10 kit conversion crossmember swap ls Please choose your vehicles details for specific results. Talk to the experts. c10 engine 1966 truck ls1 chevrolet mount lq cxracing 4l80 transmission 1960 View cart for details. Don't see what you're looking for? At the time this wasn't an option. transmission chevy crossmember c10 1963 1972 through 1973 1987 trailing arm drop center very 1955 1957 tri five - for PayPal Credit, opens in a new window or tab, Learn more about earning points with eBay Mastercard, - eBay Return policy - opens in a new tab or window, - eBay Money Back Guarantee - opens in a new tab or window, No Interest if paid in full in 6 mo on $99+. Most of them will need to be drilled. They made sure that the design needed no drilling of the spindle or notching of the frame for tie rod clearance allowing it to lay on up to a 30.5" overall height tire. c10 1963 trailing 1972 arm engine 1987 through drop center gm swap ls motor 1973 transmission chevy crossmember mounts clam Before you remove your old crossmember, measure the actual WB on both sides (just to make sure nothing is bent). Come join the discussion about restoration, builds, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! (There are other and probably easier ways to mount the hoses, including the use of stainless flex hoses instead). If you get the frame brackets from a '73-'87 C20, they will be a little closer to the frame, than the C10 brackets. It would be far more convenient with the engine out of the way. chev I'm trying to use all I can from the 78 donor truck on this low budget (hobby) build. The new suspension crossmember was put into place and it was discovered two of the holes lined up on each side. This project could probably be completed in a weekend if planned out ahead of time. The engine was rested on top of the frame, and the motor mounts, towers and suspension crossmember were removed. The 1975 donor frame fresh from the wrecking yard. choppin chassis crossmember azproperformance backhalf lsx Choppin' Block has also made life easier with lower control arm alignment cam locks which offer adjustment on the lower a-arm. c1500 belltech c10 driveline No Interest if paid in full in 6 months on $99+. crossmember c10 1972 drop 1963 chevy trailing arm center transmission build piece cool I did not want any 1960 steering components to remain, due to high cost and weaker components. will the donor 350 engine mounts work from the 1978? Fits: Chevrolet C-10 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972. Did you not find anything about that in the links that markeb01 posted? Hope this will line up OK. Just starting to get into the heart of this project. crossmember {"modules":["unloadOptimization","bandwidthDetection"],"unloadOptimization":{"browsers":{"Firefox":true,"Chrome":true}},"bandwidthDetection":{"url":"https://ir.ebaystatic.com/cr/v/c1/thirtysevens.jpg","maxViews":4,"imgSize":37,"expiry":300000,"timeout":250}}. Eventually, the company started creating complete air suspension kits for clients who want to get their vehicle on the ground affordably and efficiently. Call 800.979.0122, 7am-10pm, everyday. suspension 1960 upgrade chevy truck gmc crossmember This warranty does not cover abuse, operation in a manner inconsistent with the products design, or damage resulting from exposure to the elements. We were unable to complete your request. crossmember lt1 2wd l86 l83 lt5 lt4 ltx In the event that a product is out of the warranty time period, we will evaluate and respond to the customers concerns on a case-by-case basis. A forum community dedicated to hot rod owners and enthusiasts. In looking back at the pictures, it appears the only hole on the side of the frame that almost lines up is the upper rear hole in the frame. In the before and after pictures it appears I slotted it straight up. One thing you could do to get close is measure your wheel base. BOLT ON APPLICATION (SEE VIDEO IN LISTING), Note:Will lay frame on a 30.5" tall tire,Ride height with 30" tall tire is appx. It then shifted its focus to expanding and refining its air suspension offerings. crossmember transmission chevy c10 durable 1963 swap ls trunk gm 1972 pickup The bolts came right out, but the crossmember was stuck pretty tight and required use of a cable engine puller. ls pan oil swap c10 c10 trailing 1972 chevy arm 1963 crossmember through transmission 1987 drop center very 1973 gm 1960 rear truck The new suspension crossmember was put into place and it was discovered two of the holes lined up on each side. This was a bit tricky since reaching inside the frame to hold the nuts required the use of 2 wrenches taped together. This listing is for part or sub-assembly number given below only. elongated. CB Chassis Products started out as The Choppin' Block Fab and established its reputation by creating high-quality air suspension trucks and cars. The only non-stock item visible is an aftermarket sway bar for a Mustang II suspension which had been added much earlier. Although it can be done with the engine in place it isn't recommended. roads To confirm that this part fits your vehicle, please choose a vehicle from the "My Garage" list OR enter your vehicles details below. Something went wrong. crossmember trailing Thanks, I just sat the frame on the donor member tonight I did not mark the old xmember position when removing. Accuracy in mounting the steering linkage is particularly important as it is a close fit to both the frame and the crossmember. Yes I would use the original location on the crossmember for the motor mount brackets. For those interested in upgrading the 60-62 to the later disc brake front suspension the following information explains the front suspension swap in my 1960 GMC short stepside. KUAFU Engine Transmission Crossmember Conversion Kit For 1947-59 Chevy GMC Truck. Also which holes in the xmember to frame do I use to pin for marking and aligning? trailing 1963 arm c10 1972 drop center crossmember swap ls motor crossmember ls crossmember crossmembers transmission Compatibility information is not available for this item. You can use the '78 motor mounts and the frame brackets. These holes are half round and half hex to prevent the hose from rotating. crossmember c10 700r4 th350 suspension truck 1960 chevy brake member upgrade end hose conversion swap driver side The crossmember was then removed for drilling the frame. 4.5"-5", Track width aired out, with stock or stock style drop spindle: 57"Track width with arms parallel to ground, with stock or stock style drop spindle: 61"LS engines use GM Muscle Car pan, PN: 19212593The lower control arms are 1.5", 1/8" wall, and uppers are 1.00", 1/8" wall, No rack notch needed, 100% bolt-onCam bolts for alignment adjustment, no shims neededLifetime warrantyKeeps engine low in the frame to increase hood clearanceUses tapered pin for the spindle, no need to drill spindleLS engines use cheaper Muscle Car pan ($150) GM PN: 19212593, Main crossmember, motor mounts and structural componentsTubular control arms with bushings and ball jointsShock relocation bracketsSteering LinkageRack-n-Pinion hardware, with heim end for spindleKYB Shocks. (I have a '64 C10). I know the frames are different on 60-62 trucks than the 63-66 trucks so I was never sure if the 73-87 truck crossmember swapped over on the earlier 60-62 trucks. crossmember c10 The 1960 crossmember came out semi-easy. 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The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, Covert 60-62 Front Suspension - '60-'66 Chevy pickups, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Choppin' Block's new bolt on C-10 cross member and rear backha Choppin Block warrants this product to the end-user, when properly installed and under normal conditions of use, to be free from defects in workmanship and materials for a period of one year from the provided date of purchase for the original purchaser of the product. ''life is only a temporary assignment '' Make the best of it !!! Thanks Jack. Just curious, isn't moving just the crossmember forward (to alter wheelbase) going to affect the steering geometry? In order to make sure all the later components fit in exactly the right place on the 1960 frame, once the donor suspension was disassembled, templates were made out of manila file folders indicating the location of all mounting holes for the crossmember, idler arm, flexible brake hoses, sway bar, etc. I will be dropping a 350/350th in also. After placing the truck frame on jack stands and before removing the 1960 suspension, I marked the fender and garage floor identifying the centerline of the spindles so I'd make sure to put the new suspension in the same place. c10 trailing 1963 1972 arm drop center chevy crossmember 1987 The new crossmember was then permanently bolted into place. c10 ls swap ingenuity fab crossmember tra compatible transmission speed 1973 1987 ls crossmember Although it looks like Swiss cheese, only 3 of the holes are added. Choppin' Block completely redesigned the factory C10 suspension to create very little camber change, no bump steer issues and created a better handling suspension. Using a tool this precise prevented any damage to the brackets. It appears looking at the pictures the two large holes also required opening up a bit to provide clearance/access for the upper control arm bolts. (The following photo is marked showing the old and new locations). Connecting the hard line to the frame end of the hose was rather difficult (inside the frame) and required a lot of wrench work through a small opening in the top of the frame. If you don't like the way the wheels look, make any necessary adjustments to the WB before you start drilling holes. I believe one was underneath and the other was the upper rear which needed to be elongated. The last step was the steering linkage. A few solid steel spacers and it worked fine on the 60 frame. The rest were already there. Please try again later. CB Chassis Products continuous growth and evolution is a commitment to its promise of creating designs and innovations that keep the customers in mind. If you like the way your front wheels are centered in the fender opening, use the same WB dimension when installing the new crossmember. That's what I was thinking.on a related note, does anyone know how far forward the front wheels need to be moved in order to be centered in the wheel well? The truck was lowered to the ground to bring the suspension to ride height, the brackets were bolted to the shocks, and the brackets were centered midway between their front and rear travel, and the frame marked. As for locating the suspension crossmemberon the frame, I can't help you there since I've never done one on a '60-'62 frame. Thanks. Initially the rear torsion bar crossmember was left in place. I've been considering doing the same thing on my '64, but I'm wondering if I should move all the steering linkage forward the same amount to keep the geometry where it should be? The factory welds on the shock brackets were cut free with a Dremel tool cutoff wheel. The question pops up every once in a while on here on upgrading the 60-66 suspension. Copyright 1995-2022 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. trailing c10 1963 1972 arm drop center crossmember Hope this helps. Two chunks of surplus frame rail were simply bolted to the early 1955 style motor mount holes in the front of the block. This makes adding caster to the front end very easy. Hurst 67510004 Transmission Crossmember, 60-72 GM Truck, TKO, Speedway Universal 2 Inch Drop Tubular Transmission Crossmember Mount, Universal GM Transmission Crossmember w/Adjustable Trans Mount, Universal 4 in Drop Tubular Transmission Crossmember Mount & Ends, Speedway Universal 4 Inch Drop Tubular Transmission Crossmember Mount, Speedway Universal 6 Inch Drop Tubular Transmission Crossmember Mount, Speedway Universal 8 Inch Drop Tubular Transmission Crossmember Mount, 307 Chevy Small Block V8 Long Tube Headers. Welding might have been easier but that capability wasn't available. This kit is not your typical copy but a new kit innovated for you. Subsequently it was realized this was unnecessary and removed for improved exhaust clearance. There are conversion adapters available to mix and match the steering linkage, but this seemed like a waste of money since everything was being replaced anyway. It was immediately discovered the upper shock brackets were no longer in the correct orientation causing the shocks to bind. The holes that are circled in the 2nd photo are the new positions aligned with the 75 crossmember.

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